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Dan S
·Did they say why? Too time consuming? No parts account?
They are an official Omega service center, and my understanding is that this puts some restrictions on which movements they can service.
1963 or 64 Speedmaster help
They are an official Omega service center, and my understanding is that this puts some restrictions on which movements they can service.
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Arancio601
·They are an official Omega service center, and my understanding is that this puts some restrictions on which movements they can service.
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heller792
·Hi all,
I have had an update and need your help please, I have just been told STS are sending my watch, they cant look at it as it is a restricted calibre and under contract with Omega, could someone explain please. Once I have it back I will be sending it to Simon Freese.
I have had an update and need your help please, I have just been told STS are sending my watch, they cant look at it as it is a restricted calibre and under contract with Omega, could someone explain please. Once I have it back I will be sending it to Simon Freese.
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TDBK
·Your watch has a movement inside (the mechanical part that does the timekeeping, the guts of the watch, also called a calibre) that is an old design that Omega stopped using in the late 1960s; the model number of your movement is the "321". Omega no longer makes parts for the 321 movement available to their authorized service centers like STS, and it appears that STS has no way to service your watch other than to send it to Omega in Switzerland.
Many people here would advise you to not allow Omega to do the servicing, as Omega's rules on what it requires and allows are strict and may not be aligned with your desires or the best ways to preserve the collector value of the watch; for example, they may require that the lume in the chrono hand (the pointer with a hole it it) be repaired or the whole hand replaced.
They would instead advise you to send it to Simon Freese, who has more flexibility in how to approach the service and who is a recognized expert on vintage Speedmaster servicing. It sounds like that's what you intend to do, and it's a good path if you want to preserve the character of your father's watch.
Many people here would advise you to not allow Omega to do the servicing, as Omega's rules on what it requires and allows are strict and may not be aligned with your desires or the best ways to preserve the collector value of the watch; for example, they may require that the lume in the chrono hand (the pointer with a hole it it) be repaired or the whole hand replaced.
They would instead advise you to send it to Simon Freese, who has more flexibility in how to approach the service and who is a recognized expert on vintage Speedmaster servicing. It sounds like that's what you intend to do, and it's a good path if you want to preserve the character of your father's watch.
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heller792
·Your watch has a movement inside (the mechanical part that does the timekeeping, the guts of the watch, also called a calibre) that is an old design that Omega stopped using in the late 1960s; the model number of your movement is the "321". Omega no longer makes parts for the 321 movement available to their authorized service centers like STS, and it appears that STS has no way to service your watch other than to send it to Omega in Switzerland.
Many people here would advise you to not allow Omega to do the servicing, as Omega's rules on what it requires and allows are strict and may not be aligned with your desires or the best ways to preserve the collector value of the watch; for example, they may require that the lume in the chrono hand (the pointer with a hole it it) be repaired or the whole hand replaced.
They would instead advise you to send it to Simon Freese, who has more flexibility in how to approach the service and who is a recognized expert on vintage Speedmaster servicing. It sounds like that's what you intend to do, and it's a good path if you want to preserve the character of your father's watch.
Thank you for the in depth reply, looking forward to having it back and putting a new strap on it so my son can wear it with pride.
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nonuffinkbloke
·Did they say why? Too time consuming? No parts account?
No, they didn't mention anything about the time spent on services or parts. I got the impression that it was now Omega policy, that watches with 321 movements should be sent to Omega.
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heller792
·What strap would people recommend with this watch?
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pdxleaf
·You're going to enjoy looking through these options. It'll help pass the time while you wait. 😀
https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-speedmaster-moon.7229/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-your-omega-speedmaster-leather-strap-wrist-shots.110247/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/best-strap-for-a-speedmaster-whats-your-choice.121024/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-speedmaster-moon.7229/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-your-omega-speedmaster-leather-strap-wrist-shots.110247/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/best-strap-for-a-speedmaster-whats-your-choice.121024/
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heller792
·You're going to enjoy looking through these options. It'll help pass the time while you wait. 😀
https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-speedmaster-moon.7229/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-your-omega-speedmaster-leather-strap-wrist-shots.110247/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/best-strap-for-a-speedmaster-whats-your-choice.121024/
Thank you for those links, that was a lot of straps, The watch has now gone to Simon, looking forward to getting it back.
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ortope
·Congrats.
I’ll wager that you are the proud owner of a Speedmaster reference 105.002-62.
A very limited production reference, circa 1963.
Here are a couple of more pristine examples.
PS. As you can see your watch, while worn, appears to contain many original components.
The bracelet is not original.
For the dial/hands configuration that you own, the serial number should be 20.520.XXX.
Unfortunately before I bought it, during a service at Omega they changed the hands, the crown, the crystal and put a brand new band on it.
I noted that the "Swiss Made" writing should be closer to the minute marker on this particular batch of late watches with baton hands,
as shown on the MWO book:
I already changed the crown with an original A1 type:
I also found an original vintage crystal and the original band + end links.
Now the watch is by my watch maker for a service.
Could you eventually share the movement number and a picture of the case back inside.
I would try to put his original Omega bracelet on the watch with #6 end links, hard to find nowadays,
but worth it...
Cheers
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!
Indeed but there was a change over point and your serial is after this. Nothing is set in stone, but it would be expected that your watch came with the Alpha hands originally as it is an earlier example of the reference. Hands were routinely changed at service time. Note Ortope mentions this above also.
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heller792
·All I can say is that according to my mother in law the watch was never serviced, she has been with him before he was given the watch, he just wasn't that bothered about the watch and I don't think he understood tha value of it. I can only go off what she tells me as the father in law is no longer with us. I did read somewhere that there is no relationship to the hands and serial numbers and it appears to be quite random, I will see if I can find that article.
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Geme81
·Would be nice to put on a Fostner bracelet on this beautiful aged piece
https://forstnerbands.com/collections/the-komfit-jb-mesh-watch-band
https://forstnerbands.com/collections/the-komfit-jb-mesh-watch-band
