1950s Argentine Air Force CK2451 27 CHRO C12

gatorcpa

I think the comments above are more of an indictment of Argentine watch sellers than the military.

On the list of countries I will not buy from, Argentina is #2. Ukraine is #1 by a large margin.

I have seen very few watches from Argentina that haven't been redialled, frankenwatched, or otherwise vandalized.

Even the one watch deal I did with an Argentine, he switched out bracelets on a couple of Seiko chronographs, even after showing the correct bracelets in the eBay listing. The seller said he would send the correct ones shown in the listing and I never heard from him again.

It just seems that there is a different meaning of business ethics in Argentina than most other countries.

Sorry, that is my opinion until proven otherwise.
gatorcpa

Americano74

I have been collecting and buying as a foreigner for 15 years in Argentina . And had a few Argentinian military pieces most most of them bought from first owners or families only two chronographs where used in the Argentinian Airforce The Heuer Autavia from the 1960s , and the omega 2451 . The davidoff example is a fake one.

Fost

that is a nice Watch... is the drop hand original to the Watch?

Maganator

So is the watch in the link in the OP not a genuine Argentine military watch? The engraving on the case back looks the same but t here are clear differences in the dial and hands.

Americano74

Compare the left wing the lower lines , OP is thicker and diferent from the right lines , the stamp really raw.

Besides it's is such a bad fake I know exactly who made or sold it . It's a small world in Buenos Aires.

Ecodelosandes

As a forum member born, raised and living in Argentina, it is SAD (yes, with capitals), to read some of your posts in this thread, specially the one from a member that says to live in latin america.
Then you can ask the pilots of the glorious RAF or the Royal Navy if Argentina does have an Air Force.
Getting a good idea of where is my place in the group.

Miguel Mendonça
Red flagged in Argentina

Americano74

I recognize the work ...

Americano74

Anther example of a fake Tudor Mil, cuerpo infanteria sub offered by a respected dealer in Switserland ,

And an original one

The number sequence does no correspond with the serial number and year , the case back has been grinded and the font is different.

Edward53

35 years ago the Argentine Air Force pilots were just about the world's bravest. As every Brit of that generation knows. Their marines were pretty good too. Nothing but respect here.

Maganator

I see what you mean about the left wing in the OP's. It isn't nearly as crisp as the image you shared above.

If that means it is fake, rather than just an engraving mishap, then I expect the Davidoff brothers would want to know. They have a pretty good reputation and if they have sold a fake I am sure they would want to know about it.

Americano74

I have been collecting and buying as a foreigner for 15 years in Argentina . And had a few Argentinian military pieces most most of them bought from first owners or families only two chronographs where used in the Argentinian Airforce The Heuer Autavia from the 1960s , and the omega 2451 . The davidoff example is a fake one.

Americano74

Compare the left wing the lower lines , OP is thicker and diferent from the right lines , the stamp really raw.

Besides it's is such a bad fake I know exactly who made or sold it . It's a small world in Buenos Aires.

Americano74

Thank you , the hands are original , note the difference in the finesse of the lines in the wings .

watchyouwant

i`ve had a few Argentine mil. watches over the last 25 years. when everything was cheap and there was no need to fake engravings.... but your original here makes me wonder...... there is absolutely NO Benefit for any pilot on this planet to use an issued Airforce chrono with a pulsometer scale for doctors. so, mil. watches are a tricky field. you should know a bit, before dressing things up . kind regards. achim