1949 Longines redial for 6800 EUR

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In this instance I doubt a person


@divetime, it’s an interesting discussion.
I believe if a person is offering a watch for sale publicly, they have chosen the medium and the publicity.

The internet and Instagram are very powerful sales devices, made available publicly by those who created those platforms.
Sellers can make a lot more money and reach a much broader audience than with old fashioned ways— but if they avail themselves of the internet to reach an international audience, they have chosen the consequences.
They put themselves out there.
As the Americans say, «you cannot have your cake and eat it». The French have an equivalent saying, « you cannot have the butter and the money for the butter ».

Especially if it comes to public discussions of flaws or misrepresentations.

Compare with companies. If a company wants to offer its stock to the public, it has to accept public disclosures about its business.
If you do not accept that: keep your sale (or company) private. No one’s forcing anyone to sell on the Internet.

I agree people should be careful when they’re discussing other people’s watches on forums— sometimes they make cavalier comments, I personally find it inconsiderate sometimes— but when that happens and comments get out of hand there’s often someone who chimes in to correct the course.

It’s a well known fact groups can be rowdy, but groups are also often more intelligent and knowledgeable than a single individual.

(Edit / add- I realized while I was typing others posted similar thoughts- I agree with them).
Syrte! Totally agreed and couldn't have said any better! Thanks for this. During this discussion I already received private messages from a collector. He was proud to post a piece of his collection on IG and to share with others. He was not amused to find his watch as a thread to be posted as a redial. And I agree with him. It is everybody's personal decision. I m thankful that this is just contrary discussed. Happy christmas to all of you.
 
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Syrte! Totally agreed and couldn't have said any better! Thanks for this. During this discussion I already received private messages from a collector. He was proud to post a piece of his collection on IG and to share with others. He was not amused to find his watch as a thread to be posted as a redial. And I agree with him. It is everybody's personal decision. I m thankful that this is just contrary discussed. Happy christmas to all of you.
I googled “Bulova Seabee”- my watch came up in the search for threads I have posted here in the past. Anyone can see those, grab those pics and head over to WUS or other forums and bash them to their hearts content. If you post it on the web, it’s not yours anymore. Sure, we try to be polite with other collectors, but this is about the reality of our connected and very public world.
 
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Just wanted to add that in Danish it is "you cannot blow and have flour in the mouth at the same time" 😀

ROFL!
Wait ... why would I want to have flour in my mouth?
 
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The big difference for me is I was seriously interested in buying them and did ask for help before I did 😀

I don't see this as a "big difference" in any fundamental way, except for the fact that in those cases you were the one benefitting from the discussion. So that made it ok. In other cases, different people may benefit (aside from the OP), but you criticize those discussions. This is hypocrisy IMO. 🙄
 
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Somebody listed equivalent phrases in 8 languages including Danish!
Polish, the wolf is full and the lamb in one piece,
The Italians say you can’t have the barrel full and the woman drunk,
In Spanish you can’t attend mass and ring the bells,
And in German, you can’t dance at two weddings at the same time.
Portuguese for you @Tony C., wanting the sun when it’s raining on the field of turnips, but no swahili, sorry.

Though it may be considered politically incorrect by some, I like the Italian version the best!
 
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Though it may be considered politically incorrect by some, I like the Italian version the best!
I think the Italians get a pass. It’s like my 82- year old step-father kisses everyone when he greets them (men and women)- it’s a cultural and generational thing.
 
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Syrte! Totally agreed and couldn't have said any better! Thanks for this. During this discussion I already received private messages from a collector. He was proud to post a piece of his collection on IG and to share with others. He was not amused to find his watch as a thread to be posted as a redial. And I agree with him. It is everybody's personal decision. I m thankful that this is just contrary discussed. Happy christmas to all of you.

Unfortunately there are also many so called collectors who showcase bad watches on Instagram and offer them for sale two weeks later. I have in mind someone who posted a redial on his Instagram account, I didn’t say anything but then he offered it for sale two weeks later.
The watch had already been identified here as a redial, he bought it for 500 euros on Ebay (a 35mm Longines) and proceeded to offer it for sale for three times the price.
I messaged him privately to have a discussion about it, he was adamant the dial was original— it seemed obvious to me it wasn’t. He may not have been a professional dealer but IMHO he took advantage of someone less experienced.
 
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Every watch for sale is up for discussion, and regardless if someone feels that’s right or wrong, it’s going to happen anyway. A seller, especially one as prominent as Shuck The Oyster knows better, but possibly doesn’t even care. Notice they never use the word “original” in their description, just “near mint” and “flawless”. So while misleading, technically not dishonest. This watch is in excellent condition despite being a redial.

Its also entirely possible the dealer isn’t completely sure of its originality, but it’s close enough that they’re willing to take the risk. I’ve heard a very prominent dealer confess that even if he’s 50/50 on a watch the fact that he’s selling it gives the watch enough credibility. Great for them, but also sounds like some of these dealers are taking their good reputations for granted.
 
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Oh- I don’t doubt it! I find the languages of the South Pacific equally beautiful akin to the Romance languages. Sadly we English speakers got the worst of Latin and Germanic with some inane grammatical rules thrown in.
Eh ? Tha knows nowt fella, us’ere in Yorkshire speak right propa tha knows 😉 😁
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