168.005 pie-pan dial with upside down star

Posts
6,308
Likes
9,750
This dial is from this 168.005, which is correct to my knowledge:

the movt serial is right towards the end of the 24,xxxs, so a painted indices dial could be fine.
 
Posts
324
Likes
639
..........
The dial certainly didn't leave Omega with the star upside down - unless it was a quality control reject and kept by someone.

In respect of quality control deficiency, I have another example of mine. I bought 2 pieces (identical one) of 18k Constellation dials from local Omega agent, Omtis Ltd. in Hong Kong back to around 20 years ago. It was the time when Omega began to terminate local agents all over the world. These 2 dials were supposed to be service dials which are NOS of 1960s. They are for model 14381 cal 551.

After purchase, later I found that they are without minute chapter (markings). I would claim it to be quality control deficiency. (IMHO)

OF members' views are welcome. Or, does any member has any similar Omega Connie dial without minute markings. Thank you in advance.
 
Posts
6,308
Likes
9,750
In respect of quality control deficiency, I have another example of mine. I bought 2 pieces (identical one) of 18k Constellation dials from local Omega agent, Omtis Ltd. in Hong Kong back to around 20 years ago. It was the time when Omega began to terminate local agents all over the world. These 2 dials were supposed to be service dials which are NOS of 1960s. They are for model 14381 cal 551.

After purchase, later I found that they are without minute chapter (markings). I would claim it to be quality control deficiency. (IMHO)

OF members' views are welcome. Or, does any member has any similar Omega Connie dial without minute markings. Thank you in advance.

18k Connie dials were destined for deluxe models with corresponding 18k cases.
However, AFAIK these had the fat,flat onyx insert indices.

I can only imagine that the dials you have with plain indices and no minute ticks were some kind of special order.(I can’t see any gold marks on the back of the dial)

my 14382 deluxe for comparison.
 
Posts
10,446
Likes
16,336
Dial furniture is riveted not brazed. On the rear, indices are blacker here and brighter there, it is because of the lighting and angle.
The indices might be but I am not sure the central features are. You have it in hand so are a
I’m a better position to judge tho.

I am pretty sure the central features have been removed and replaced. badly.
Edited:
 
Posts
324
Likes
639
Hi @Peemacgee
The gold mark is partially rubbed when legs of the indices and logo were grinded off from the bottom of the dial. But you can still find the 18K markings as circled below.

[EDIT] One more picture of the 2nd piece with clear "ZJ 18K" marking is attached.
Edited:
 
Posts
6,308
Likes
9,750
Hi @Peemacgee
The gold mark is partially rubbed when legs of the indices and logo were grinded off from the bottom of the dial. But you can still find the 18K markings as circled below.

you know, I was looking for the ZJ mark and didn’t see it 👍
 
Posts
324
Likes
639
I can only imagine that the dials you have with plain indices and no minute ticks were some kind of special order.(I can’t see any gold marks on the back of the dial)

Thank you for your insight on the possibility of special order. It reminds me of the all gold indices of the dial, that is seldom found on Connie dials.
 
Posts
365
Likes
453
Markers, logo, star, date window are made from solid white gold. That "blueish" color is because of natural oxidation, I can clean them to bright white gold but decided to keep their color of time.

Are you sure about that? You said with certainty that the dial was untouched. What's the history behind the dial? With all due respect I have never seen anything like this. To my eyes it looks "synthetic". If you will give some further information it would be much appreciated.
Edited:
 
Posts
299
Likes
792
This one ''new with tags" Constellation Calendar unusual dial without Swiss Made
 
Posts
324
Likes
639
Superb! An excellent example in 18K. Congratulations!