1675 previously owned by President of Mexico.

Cozmopak

I called my watch exceptional and you took issue with that description, stating that a watch with a polished case was far from exceptional, even though I never solicited your opinion. It’s within your right to express your opinion, but it was done in a confrontational manner, and the confrontation felt as though it was directed at Mr. Wind. Perhaps you feel emboldened by your shroud of anonymity.

Mr. Wind conducted himself in the most professional manner regarding my 1675 and even offered to take the watch back and fully refund it as well as pay for all of its service fees, as I had it professionally serviced shortly after receiving it. I decided to keep the watch, because still, to my eye, it is quite exceptional.

The way that Mr. Wind conducted himself with me would make me recommend him to anyone who is looking for another exceptional watch.

I’m not sure why there is such animosity directed at vintage watch dealers by certain members of the collecting community. Mr. Wind obviously has a passion for vintage watches and has been able to cultivate a living out of his passion. Perhaps you envy him? That’s understandable, as a part of me does, too!

That 1675 that I bought from him is a piece that I would never have been able to find on the secondary market on my own. I don’t have the network that Mr. Wind has, nor do I have the time to find a watch like that. I do have another profession, though and I am willing to pay for Mr. Wind’s networks and for his time and expertise.

Traveler

Bump! Bring a Loupe: A GMT-Master With Political Provenance, A 1930s Reverso, And A Curious Piece Of Girard-Perregaux Ephemera
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/vintage-watches-bring-a-loupe-march-13-2020

Chris75

Man I just stated the watch was polished and therefore not exceptional.

Also other people in that discussione stated that the watch wasn't unpolished, it wasn't just me.

Please check the thread: you had never stated that the watch was unpolished before my comment, so I couldn't know it was sold as unpolished.

I don't have anything against Eric Wind, but please if buy the seller also check the watch!

It's a crazy argument to say that a watch is unpolished or correct just for the provenance, without empirically examine it.

I just tried to help a collector, sorry if my comment wasn't appreciated.

Cozmopak

Ok, I’ll chalk this up to miscommunication since English is obviously not your first language.

Chris75

Sorry, I'll try to rephrase it: there were other Omegaforum members that told you that the watch you purchased from mr.Wind was polished, and I suppose you don't believe that they had a specific feeling towards Mr.Wind.

We made a comment on watch, regardless from the buyer or the seller.

If in the future you will try to sell that watch you'll probably get what I meant with my poor English.

993watch

We’ve had some interesting posts that have been heated at times on this thread thus far. I believe these forums should encourage constructive debate among collectors and be inclusive of those that make their living selling watches. It’s ok to disagree and have a difference of opinion.

The reaction may have been much different at times, if the initial tone hadn’t hinted at suspicion based on controversial IG posts and if clear contrarian proof had been provided up to this point. I personally wouldn’t share an unsolicited opinion on someone else’s piece unless it was requested. The intent may be constructive, but it risks coming off as critical IMHO.

Cozmopak

Oh my, the assumption that I would ever want or need to sell this watch in the future (and by the way, I’ve already had five unsolicited offers) is somewhat presumptuous.

993watch

Chris75- the issue isn’t about opinions on what the original pics show, as we may never be able to tell conclusively about Mk3 or Mk4 from the original pics available thus far and can debate that topic until the cows come home. The issue is that you and Orchi are calling the sellers liars with this continuation of collaborative effort, as the sellers have stated it came from the family and yet you and Orchi imply that is a fabrication.

Here’s the reference as pulled from the Robb Report article: “The timepiece has not only never publicly come to market before, it is also coming directly from Portillo’s family.” Are you saying this is a typo or the sellers are lying?

You apologize then go back on attack in a passive aggressive manner. Orchi’s post is nonsensical garbage and on top of that he has the gall to have his hand out for a reward? Unbelievable.

Chris75

Sorry no proof was provided, from the pictures it looks like a Mk4 to me ( and to other people) and a Mk3 to you (and to other people).

Meanwhile I hope that people who know will have the courage to talk, since as you see the watch doesn't come directly from the family of the first owner but it seems it passed through some hands.

And as you can see it seems that the dial was swapped previously by someone else, not by Mr.Wind, so really nothing personal .

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Chris75

I am not related with Orchi and I am not calling anyone a liar.

Now I'll really back off from all this because I don't like the direction this is taking.

In my opinion the watch in the pictures looks like a Mk4 and I was told that the watch came out last Fall (or was offered) with the same dial it has now.

That's it.

Unless new evidence will come out there is no point in arguing.

ATWG

I think O might be right in that it was first offered by another dealer. I had inquired about the radial on the left which had apparently been sold. I was offered the one on the right and was told it was worn by a former Latin president.

I could not find the pic as proof until I unlocked my previous phone.

Here is the IG post from last fall:

Notice the small diagonal mark on the bottom right lug:

Here is the watch in question:

Notice the similar mark on the bottom right lug:

ICONO

The plot thickens…

GuiltunderGlass

Looks that post was deleted as well.