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13ZN Chronographs Inquiries and Information.

Pierpa
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vujen vujen
Wrong pushers
Redialed
(sorry to say this but it is true..) -->exposed

I doubt you'll receive offers higher than 12-13K IMHO
It's fine with me anyway. It was already a surprise to find it among my father's old things.
 
vujen
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Pierpa Pierpa
It's fine with me anyway. It was already a surprise to find it among my father's old things.
of course! Just to let you have a range
 
iltdy
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is it a redial? not sure but little skeptical，the black circle around the sub dial made me confused

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Mark020
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iltdy iltdy
the black circle around the sub dial made me confused
Looks more dirt than colour...
 
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Mark020 Mark020
Looks more dirt than colour...
after searching more examples, I convince myself it is original,.
a one from christies and.another from analog shift

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Pierpa
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Hi, does anybody know what reference could be this 13ZN and if the caseback is original or not?
Thank you in advance

front.webp Rear.webp
 
Mark020
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The batch/ordernumber (5 digit number on the back) seems to be 22223? Anyway: google that and you may find the reference. Another option is mailing Longines
 
minutenrohr
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I would guess that the case back is original. The batch number is 22026. This corresponds to reference number 4974.
 
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Strangely enough, I found different batch/order numbers (21699, 21514) under Ref. 4974. Perhaps my first post was incorrect.
 
minutenrohr
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I took some time seeking online to find out which authentic-looking Longines Ref. 4974 are listed. And which order/batch numbers these watches have. One 21699, three 21514, two 22026m, one 22127 and two 22184. Screenshots attached.
So reference 4974 was sold with these order/batch numbers, at least. I couldn't see any logic in that. For example, radium configuration or not. Maybe that the serial numbers are closer together in each case.
!3ZN ref 4974 (1).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (2).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (3) 1.webp !3ZN ref 4974 (4).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (5).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (6).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (7).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (8).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (9).webp
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Pierpa
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Very interesting, thank
minutenrohr minutenrohr
I took some time seeking online to find out which authentic-looking Longines Ref. 4974 are listed. And which order/batch numbers these watches have. One 21699, three 21514, two 22026m, one 22127 and two 22184. Screenshots attached.
So reference 4974 was sold with these order/batch numbers, at least. I couldn't see any logic in that. For example, radium configuration or not. Maybe that the serial numbers are closer together in each case.
!3ZN ref 4974 (1).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (2).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (3) 1.webp !3ZN ref 4974 (4).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (5).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (6).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (7).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (8).webp !3ZN ref 4974 (9).webp

you. I've found some of these references, but this one is definitely more complete. The pieces listed seem to be in better condition than my watch, so I'm not sure how much to ask or what the best sales channel would be. Thanks anyway, nice work.
 
Mark020
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Put it on ebay with a lot of good pictures...
 
J_pilot
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I just landed this guy on the bay via best offer (first project of 2026!). There were no movement pics but it seems to be a cool watch in honest, original condition, maybe right down to the strap! Has anyone seen this dial variant before? I love the breguets.

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Mark020
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Distinct Movado vibes
 
Mark020
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Interesting. Looking at the 10 I’m inclined to think so too but if so it is a very convincing example
 
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