Hi guys, thanks in advance for you thoughts. I collect pieces with Portuguese provenance and so I am always looking for import tax hallmarks, original papers, original owners, etc...I came across this "Portuguese" 13zn today (upper left lug dent), movement number 5.5million, so 1937 I reckon, and 34-35mm. Dial is in pretty bad shape, like if someone tried to clean it, but case looks strong and mvt also. Asking price 4k€, so probably fair. My question is if you think the dial is coherent or not (closed 6 and fatter, serif font on the seconds track make me wonder...)?
Dial is original. I imagine that the extract will say 1938 or slightly later. An arrow-style minute counter hand would be more typical but this is not a big deal on such an example. Nice original crown. I do not recall seeing many 13ZNs with Portuguese import marks.
For comparison, here is another example with a similar dial. https://watchcharts.com/listing/454598/longines-chronograph-13zn-stainless-steel-complete-parts
Thanks a lot for your insight! I actually have a "Portuguese" 13zn already, but rose gold - actually probably sold in France and later on imported as a used watch into Portugal (old man's head import tax hallmark)
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Hi all, although by now a correct 13ZN is well above my means (which may be the case for many here), I still wanted to announce an interesting auction. It's one of the few opportunities to bid on a non-tinkered "Romanian" (the larger of the two models, a reference 3811), so it's one of the few 13ZNs that were actually sold to an army. I don't really care about that in itself, but it has the advantage that the watch is well documented. Even the sales documents (offer, sales contract between LONGINES and the Romanian Ministry of Defense and the list of actual recipients of the watches & more) are preserved in copies. I am really curious to see what the watch will bring. Many greetings - HU shorturl.at/ouyCK
@minutenrohr Thank you for sharing this watch/auction listing. It looks like a very nice example of a special 13ZN. I am keen to see how much it sells for.
Just saw this from "shucktheoyster" and "learned" that this Longines Ref 3870 was originally delivered in 1941 with an enamel dial ... In 1941 it should have had a metal dial - I guess here the description and pictures...
Don’t bother trying to bring their “mistakes” to their attention, last time I did they told me it was none of my business and blocked me. That was a “one owner” watch bought direct from the family, yet the dial had been sold loose on eBay just two months earlier.