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·That is amazing! I was hesitant to send it to Longines. At this time I have no immediate reason to sell it. I plan to do more research and appreciate what it is.
13ZN Chronographs Inquiries and Information.
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DNEM
·Thank you very much for the input! Will likely ask you!
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·.....but he will still have a broken watch. If I had a piece like that I would be
proud to wear it in working condition on my wrist. That being said, it needs a
new balance. Probably just a balance staff, a part that is not hard to source.
And any competent watchmaker would be able to do the job.
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·I’ve been wearing it Not Working! Just because it’s so nice to look at. I will likely stop that practice for a bit.
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·This is just one guy’s opinion, but I think it’s way too valuable to wear around. I wouldn’t wear it if I owned it and to me it therefore doesn’t matter that much what condition it’s in. A dealer like Andrea Foffi or Stefano Franceschetti would give you $50k instantly and then one of them could worry about getting a new staff and (more importantly) take the risks involved. The Longines Museum is actively looking for one of these and they’d probably pay $50-60k. Any time you have someone work on it there’s a risk something might go wrong. Sending it to Longines through the Swatch Group system is risky. They could (a) lose it and (b) they treat watches rather haphazardly. They treated my unique military 13ZN like it was a $50 watch last time they handled one of my watches, lost the box, manhandled the strap etc
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·That’s amazing thank you for the input! I’m going to explore all areas, appreciating it along the way!
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divetime
·congrats a very nice find! My suggestion get it back to working condition and enjoy. Here another example that was recently offered but stayed unsold:
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harrymai86
·https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/323981718505
Let see how this one go
Let see how this one go
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DirtyDozen12
··Thanks, mystery donor!https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/323981718505
Let see how this one go
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harrymai86
·Just for clarity, this watch has a poorly refinished dial and incorrect, Taubert crown. Whoever is bidding either has a dial, needs parts, or doesn't know/care about the state of the dial.
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··MWR Tech Support DeptThey treated my unique military 13ZN like it was a $50 watch last time they handled one of my watches, lost the box, manhandled the strap etc
Wow, sounds quite disheartening- but may I ask how long ago that was?
I believe they run a much tighter ship now, and my gut tells me you’re talking about a different era.
In the current Brand Heritage department, the historians who are in constant touch with collectors also serve as a conduit to the vintage watchmakers and liaise with the customer service people. The department had 2 historians 8 years ago has now 7 more people or so.
They, as well as the chief vintage watchmakers have regular interactions with the collectors whose watches are being restored, and from those daily contacts they are keenly aware (and I would think) respectful of things collectors care about.
I took a watch there for a certificate of authenticity and they agreed to have someone carry it back by hand at the first opportunity.
It’s a highly individualized service and frankly for a watch that’s now worth up to 100K, a 3000 euro service seems totally worth it— and I would not let anyone touch it except Longines’ vintage watchmakers.
In short, I agree this watch needs to go to Saint-Imier for service. Just do what others have done: fly there to take it by hand, travel around, and do the same one year later.
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··Thanks, mystery donor!Kind of amazing it was unsold? Why do you think that is?
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alphabeta81
·Kind of amazing it was unsold? Why do you think that is?
I was sort of shocked as well. But the general rule of thumb is that the low estimate is the reserve (including premium so 32k hammer and 40k total in this case). But many times that is not true and a higher reserve is in place and if not met it just goes unsold. I suspect the 40k all in low estimate was not the reserve and it was higher, but again this is speculation purely
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·Came from a local UK auction
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerAnd sold there Wednesday for GBP 3800 excl 28% fees. Unfortunately no movement pics. Interesting mark up
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oinkitt
·I humbly and respectfully call myself "a newbie" as well since 10 years is not much experience after all.
I also asked HOW this deterioration can happen. Thank you to those who gave their thoughts as to what could have caused this to happen..
Since you have 10 years of experience owning chronographs one would have thought you would have seen a number of examples that have damaged outer tracts... especially on none waterproof models. I suspect the moisture tracks to the outside of the plexi and then damages the outer dial.