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  1. gemstar Dec 19, 2017

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    Oh sort of like watching out for raised engravings such as dollar bills?
    Thank you.
     
  2. Seiji Dec 19, 2017

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    I have no idea what you said.
     
  3. gemstar Dec 19, 2017

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    Edited Dec 19, 2017
  4. Seiji Dec 19, 2017

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    I am the wrong person to advise about dials.

    But if a metal dial that should look like this
    69CD57CA-9401-4CFE-87BD-868FD176C59D.png

    Looks flat like these below, it has to be a poor redial of a metal dial. Enamel is different story.

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  5. gemstar Dec 19, 2017

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    Thanks buddy.Much appreciated. Yes I was referring to the spirals in the first example.Sort of like raised engravings on a printed currency..A fake would be a print and flat.
     
  6. Seiji Dec 19, 2017

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    Generally correct for vintage metal dials. Genuine Enamel won’t have concentric circles.

    Below vintage redials are as common as dirt. Seen so often on ebay you might think they are all originally made this way.

    Bad redial example.
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  7. dragoman Dec 23, 2017

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    That's just because you still haven't meet Ugly Kid Joe, my recently acquired 13zn:
    DSC_0066 - copia.JPG

    The funny thing is that its service story is fully documented in its case back (it must be a report of watchmaking in my city), and my watchmaker had a great time checking the signatures of his old masters...

    He was telling me that he had worked for two of them when he chuckled and told me "This one sure was the one who did the deed..." (we had been laughing before about the dial)...

    I still don't know if I'll try to solve that sorry mess somehow or if I'll leave like that and use it as beater, as I actually never expected to own classic Longines chrono.

    And my feelings about the guy "who did the deed" are dual; one one hand, whithout his deed, I would have never own that watch, but on the other, watching those index going into the subdials...

     
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  8. minutenrohr Dec 23, 2017

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    That´s my spare parts watch. Nice dial, can´t explain why the dial foot is copper colored: IMG_7125 copy.jpg
     
  9. Seiji Dec 23, 2017

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    Wow, no attempt what so ever.
     
  10. Gabe Dec 28, 2017

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    Guys what do you think about this?
    Longines 13ZN 1940sPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
    Refinished dial, but good looking steel case, matching serial number on case and movement.
    lo1[15].jpg s-l1600 (1).jpg s-l1600.jpg
     
  11. minutenrohr Dec 28, 2017

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    ...badly redialed!
     
  12. Seiji Dec 28, 2017

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    You mean this copy of a 5966 30CH with a fake dial labled a 13zn? With a fake caseback? So model is from wrong period as when Longines still stamped serial numbers in casebacks? Drop kick it into the trash.

    I have pair of authentic 5966.
    370B875E-6257-449C-B9F2-9A9A1EB72E0A.jpeg
     
  13. minutenrohr Dec 28, 2017

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    The case looks a bit like a 30CH type and I never saw a late 13ZN steelcase matching with the movement number. Usually Longines did that with golden cases. Otherwise it looks pretty sharp...?
     
  14. minutenrohr Dec 28, 2017

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    correct, regarding the "EFCo" (the wings of the hourglass) the caseback looks very dubious.
     
  15. Seiji Dec 28, 2017

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    Wrong typeface fonts for serial numbers. Not Longines typeface for 13zn of 1930s
     
  16. Seiji Dec 28, 2017

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    Look at the lugs. The mid case is fake too. Authentic case is not one piece! The authentic case has lugs welded to it. This fake has them molded as part of mid case.
     
  17. Seiji Dec 28, 2017

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    The movement has the 30ch bridge replaced. Completely fake watch.
     
  18. minutenrohr Dec 28, 2017

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    Sorry, that´s impossible. It is a late (ca. 1945) 13ZN movement. Ugly but not faked.
     
  19. Seiji Dec 28, 2017

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    Ok, but that is not a Longines made case or dial.
     
  20. minutenrohr Dec 28, 2017

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    Probably it isn´t.