136.020 Omega Seamaster Deville Crystal and Stem

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Hello:

First post, and greetings to you all. Thanks for taking the time to read this,

I have a vintage Omega Seamaster Deville from the mid 60s. It appears to have a one piece case, with the back not being removable. The crystal is a signed original, but it has a crack in it. On inspecting this further, I removed the bezel, and the tension ring has a crack on it too, (and fell out). I have some questions if anyone wishes to assist.

1. It appears that a new crystal should be pushed in from the rear of the bezel, is that correct. (Yes, I know I will have to invest in proper fitting glass press. I live in a remote area, and I expect the nearest Omega service center is 1000+ miles away.)

2. If I can find a crystal (PX5072 I think) from CousinsUK or Ottofrei, that is listed as genuine, will it be signed with the Omega symbol?

3. I take it the tension ring is supposed to be bonded to the hesalite? The reason I ask is that I see someone is selling NOS on ebay for $150 and it looks to me like the tension ring on that one is cracked as well, and I have also seen 5072 glass for sale that is just glass says you have to add the tension ring?

4. The movement is Omega 613. Is this a two piece stem?

5. The bezel seems to snap on and off fairly easily. How was this watch ever even close to being waterproof!?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts, answers, or opinions on any of this!
 
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I have a bunch of tension rings. (mostly ladies sizes) I think they fit into a grove inside the crystal. There is a little split in them which one can see when not under tension.

The stem is part of the case. Does look like this is a frontloader. The bezel is removed to reveal a slip ring what hold the movement in place.
 
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All Seamaster DE VILLs have split stems.

The tension ring it supposed to be split yours is not cracked.

The correct crystal is stepped on the outside, the bezel presses onto the crystal then the tension ring is pressed into the inner groove then the assembly is pressed onto the case, very waterproof.

M Murrfk
I take it the tension ring is supposed to be bonded to the hesalite?

NO
 
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The tension ring it supposed to be split yours is not cracked.

The crystal is split right where the split in the tension ring is split, so I thought they had both broken at the same time.

So...Crystal goes on crystal press dome up, then bezel is pressed on to it, over the dome (Bezel is pressed over the top of the crystal?). Then the crystal bezel are turned over, and the tension ring is pressed in from the bottom?
 
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Bezel fits to the crystal from the underside (if it is a correct crystal it is notched so bezel can not slide over from the top) then fit the tension ring.
 
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then fit the tension ring.
Thanks for this. The tension ring is a puzzle. My 60 year old crystal is done, and the edges are crumbling away, so I cannot use it as a reference.

6. Is the tension ring installed with a press after the crystal is fit in the bezel, or is it fit by hand? I take it that it fits into the Crystal before the bezel is pressed in to place on the watch body?

I also am having problems finding a original 5072 crystal, If I have to, can I get the Sternkreuz "equivalent", and then use my existing tension ring? Or is the tension ring attached with the generic Sternkreuz?
 
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As above the tension ring is not bonded to the crystal and it isn’t an unbroken loop, it has a break in it to allow fitting.

You won’t find a crystal at any of the major parts houses. These crystals are no longer supplied to resellers and as they’re common watches, stick ran dry years ago.

I’d caution against generic replacements. Sometimes they work fine, but I’ve never found a decent one for the unishell devilles, there’s always been an issue.
 
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As above the tension ring is not bonded to the crystal and it isn’t an unbroken loop, it has a break in it to allow fitting.

Understood. Thanks. What I want to know is how is it fit into place, since it is a separate piece? The previous post stated to fit the crystal first, fitting the crystal to the bezel from above. Then install the tension ring, but is this done by hand or with a press? How it is installed is the question that I have. It might be obvious when I get a crystal, but the one I have is badly broken around it edges, so I can't see how the tension ring interacts with it.

You won’t find a crystal at any of the major parts houses. These crystals are no longer supplied to resellers and as they’re common watches, stick ran dry years ago.

I’d caution against generic replacements. Sometimes they work fine, but I’ve never found a decent one for the unishell devilles, there’s always been an issue.

Any suggestions? I am running out of options, as I am in a very remote location.
 
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I’ve tried various generic crystals on devilles and none worked perfectly. That’s why it’s often best to send Devilles to watchmakers with an omega parts account.

The only time I had a satisfactory outcome was using the genuine tension ring with a generic crystal but I had to try 2 or 3 generic crystals to find one that worked and I can’t recall which it was.
I’ve yet to find a generic tension ring that was any good for these.
 
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As I previously noted the SDV crystal is notched on the outside this is what keeps the bezel from coming off.

All pieces are hand fitted, bezel fits onto the crystal from the bottom and the tension ring fits into the crystal once the bezel is fitted. Note that the correct tension ring has a flange who's outer diameter roughly matches the outer diameter of the bottom of the crystal.

The reason many aftermarket crystals which supposedly fit the SDV don't is the lack of the notch and or the lack of a flanged tension ring.

 
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There are some aftermarket crystals with the notch as well but neither me nor my watchmaker could get them to fit well.
 
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I've had good luck with the 5072 from STERNKREUZ. Notched crystal and flanged tension ring.

XAG 316.607 gold and XAC 316.597 silver
 
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Thank you all so much.....this is excellent. Very much appreciated. I checked and there is only one authorized Omega service center listed at the Swatch group for all of Canada, and it is 1500 miles away. I did write them to see the cost of a service and crystal replacement. It will be interesting to hear what they quote. I will probably just put a Sternkreuz crystal in for now, and see what I can sort out for the future. Thanks again.
 
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Our very own member Archer is an Omega certified watchmaker located in Canada, his service price would likely be less than Omega for an equal or better level of service.