Hi, folks-- wondering if I could pick the collective brain for opinions on this watch. Everything looks pretty much correct to me in terms of parts but curious what everyone thinks of the condition and relative value. Not the best pics....
The bezel is certainly wrong. Movement looks correct. Case is polished. Whether this is an issue is personal preference.
The bezel is either repro or fake, you choose. Depends on if it was disclosed or not if you ask me. At first glance the watch looks ok though..but dealing with a seller that doesn'T mention the bezel would put me off at best and evoke questions about what he is not disclosing, besides the very obvious wrong bezel . And: is he asking a price that takes the wothless bezel ( as opposed to 3-5k minimum for a DON in this condition) into account?
Screwheads look worn, one cramp is missing, crown is wrong, hands relumed, subdials with issues? EDIT: Lume on the dial also looks questionable
Thanks, all. The biggest questions for me are is the lume (face and hands) original, would you say? Or relumed... the case is certainly polished but the pics are not great and it is hard for me to judge HOW polished. I have requested some extra pics. I do have an original bezel so I am not as concerned about that... asking price is $8900.
Oh and owner says chrono function not working but the rest is running fine... so, cost of a service will have to be added...
My experience is that 19m movement 105.002-62 generally have alpha hands. 20m = baton hands. Therefore, I think the hands are replacements and since the hand lume matches the dial, the dial is relumed.
Speedmaster 101 disagrees with you: https://speedmaster101.com/105-002/ Not that I know anything about it myself...
last two sentences in the assessment guide for 002’s: “ Produced in 1962 A very rare reference, produced for about six months. Initially it is actually an unchanged 2998-62, but with a new Omega number in line with the new reference number system. Then part way through the production run the hand specifications changed from alpha to baton. I am unclear when this happened or if there is a pattern to which hands were fitted when. I also do not think the serial can dictate which hand set is/was/should be fitted. I now believe that either handset on any serial is possible.”
Seems ambiguous. Since opinions may change over time, let's ask @Spacefruit if he cares to share his current thoughts on the topic.
Most likely to be wrong and related to the -62 from the case model reference. I think the most reliable information we have about those watches so far is the research from MWO and here’s what they say :
The main concern to me is that it looks (badly) relumed. As mentionned by @kov : the case-back is that polished that the double bevel seems almost gone . I would pass for 9k$.