Thank you for your research my friend, But the description says clearly that it’s not running! Would you take a chance ?
Damn straight I would. You don't need the "running" parts. There are 2 risks: 1. the movement is complete junk or 2. Wrong movement.
Description says '50s but it is from the '60s.
What I'm trying to say is that if you focus on Cal 70 movements, they are hard to come by. If you expand your search to watches that contain parts you need it gives more options.
Damn straight I would. You don't need the "running" parts. There are 2 risks: 1. the movement is complete junk or 2. Wrong movement.
Description says '50s but it is from the '60s.
What I'm trying to say is that if you focus on Cal 70 movements, they are hard to come by. If you expand your search to watches that contain parts you need it gives more options.
The early Zodiacs used bumper autos. I think their first rotary auto movement was the Cal 70. It is a risk but if you get it for $25, take some good pics and sell it on ebay 😉
I rummaged though my parts box and found a Cal 70/72 from a Zodiac Glorious. Rusty mess but...
The Axle appears to be functional.
So, expand your search to Zodiac Glorious and you should be good 😀
I think part of the issue is that we need clarification on of it was an auto winding issue or a manual winding issue. Your watchmaker said the auto winding was the problem and he suggested discarding it and having it just be a manual wind. But you said the manual winding was rough and it runs fine in auto- very different parts of the movement.
I’m not gonna crap on any watchmaker- these watches are 50 years old and parts are long NLA. To make matters worse, Zodiac decided to put their little spin on the movement and make the parts not compatible with the other AS variants- so sucks for us. My watchmaker had the same frustration- he ordered parts that “should” have been compatible according to the references- and weren’t. So I had to sources the right ones which took me some time.
So this is half of the system- the flat gear is the other half of what was my grinding manual winding issue.
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According to your parts sheet, this is 407, the flat gear was 410. Both of these your watchmaker changed....so unless you got the AS/GP part and not the Zodiac specific parts (as my watchmaker did) then they couldn’t even be fitted to the movement.
407 is the sliding pinion and 410 is the winding pinion.
There can be slippage between these two parts on the Wolf’s teeth that drive in one direction and slip in the other. These teeth are why you watch winds when you turn the crown clockwise, but it doesn’t wind when you turn it counter clockwise.
Zodiac parts are not easy to find from this era. The thing that usually frustrates me with these are the sealed mainspring barrels that are not meant to be opened...easily damaged if you try and extremely difficult to find any replacements.
Cheers, Al
407 is the sliding pinion and 410 is the winding pinion.
There can be slippage between these two parts on the Wolf’s teeth that drive in one direction and slip in the other. These teeth are why you watch winds when you turn the crown clockwise, but it doesn’t wind when you turn it counter clockwise.
Zodiac parts are not easy to find from this era. The thing that usually frustrates me with these are the sealed mainspring barrels that are not meant to be opened...easily damaged if you try and extremely difficult to find any replacements.
Cheers, Al
exactly!! My problem was the manual wind that was awkward. However he told me to cancel the automatic so that the manual wind is fixed.. I realize now that this is stupid...
as posting continues here, I have trouble accepting that I can trust him anymore even he has done a good job with all my other watches..
