Yikes, I made a brown / tropical Speedmaster dial!

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Did you take pics / post anywhere? I'm going to attempt this..

Here's a comparison shot so you can see what both feet look like:

 
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Not really too much to see......

Trimmed 321 dial foot, only the thinner part needs to be thinned down, and shortened


Fitted on 861 movement. The fat bit of the 321 pin isnt required to enter the hole in the 861 movement for the dial to sit flat but the fat part does come very close to where the pin mounts into the movement. The screw then secures it in place.


This is the dial..........which maybe in hindsight I probably shouldnt have modified the feet, the dial has started to turn brown, although it has no lume remaining. Looks fine under a crystal but a bit rough when viewed in normal light

Thank you so much! This is the first documentation anywhere (that I have come across) that confirms you don't need to modify the fat base. Also, I will be using a Luminova service dial 😉 I have a modern speedy that I has been itching for some long indexes and applied logo😀
 
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A better shot outdoors

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I just completed mine! What do you guys think? I hand filed the 321 service dial. It took me years to identify exactly what it was about my modern speedy that just didn't do it for me. I thought it was the patina. But I've realized I just love the long indexes and applied logo. I almost bought the Ultraman, but it was a little too busy for me. I really like this mod.
 
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wow - Omega should offer it that way as an option. Looks sharp.
 
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Now before people get upset and climb up onto their high horses, let me just say that while Bienne is allowing parts to be sold, I'm going to have myself some fun 😀 What you'll find below has not been done to deceive people, rather to see what is achievable.

I'm building a transitional Speedmaster, complete with a 1968 serial 861 and applied logo dial. All parts are new, except of course the movement.

I like the look of the patina that occurs with tritium dials but wondered if it might be possible to get the same effect with a new luminova version.

In the process of experimentation I seem to have turned the dial itself a subtle brown. It wasn't my intention to do this and I'm mightily surprised by the result.

It's been an expensive road to get to this point so I'm not keen on sharing the process itself but thought you all might like to see it. If I've been able to do this it makes me wonder what other watches might be out there with manufactured patina that are being passed off as something they are not?

Thoughts?

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Side by side
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Hi there! I'm looking to get a similar effect on my service dial (my pics further down this post). Are you comfortable with sharing your technique?
 
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fwiw I have also wanted to know the method @photo500 used to do this. I have come back to this thread lots of times sleuthing for possible methods. All for the fun of it of course. I get why it's not shared publicly, but I don't think its really a threat as there are so many variables we can use to differentiate and detect non-authentic dials.

I have a 2911XXXX -69 with a dial which has the slightest hints of topicality (or maybe I'm just convincing myself because of the SN). It just makes me so damn curious.
 
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You don't need to 'make a tropical dial'!

Just put the 'fakkin thing' in a soft spectacles case, and hide it the airing cupboard for 15 years!
Your Mum's big, old, damp, draws will do the rest.😲
 
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You don't need to 'make a tropical dial'!
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Your Mum's big, old, damp, draws will do the rest.😲
How does that conversation go?

“ah, mum, would you mind keeping this silly watch of mine in your drawers for 15 years... pretty please...?”
 
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You don't need to 'make a tropical dial'!

Just put the 'fakkin thing' in a soft spectacles case, and hide it the airing cupboard for 15 years!
Your Mum's big, old, damp, draws will do the rest.😲
In that way you will make a cupboardical dial::facepalm1::
 
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Well I left a 1969 dial in a case, no movement, outside in the bangkok sun and humidity for three months.

zilch

In the year I've owned my 69st I spend 1 hour a day in the sun walking to/from work in Sydney. The dial is a faded grey/brown that hasnt changed at all, but the lume has become whiter not yellower. Similar experience with a recent Tudor 7016 purchase. Lume was peach coloured, but getting whiter and paler in the sun. Was hoping for more yellow!
 
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In the year I've owned my 69st I spend 1 hour a day in the sun walking to/from work in Sydney. The dial is a faded grey/brown that hasnt changed at all, but the lume has become whiter not yellower. Similar experience with a recent Tudor 7016 purchase. Lume was peach coloured, but getting whiter and paler in the sun. Was hoping for more yellow!
You want darker lume, put it away from the sun, in a safe maybe. Longer you leave it the darker the lume should get.
Lume only, the dial will not change.