Would you take the risk starting self studying watchmaking?

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Regarding the title of the post, I don't understand the aspect of "risk". What risk? Just get a couple of cheap movements and play around with them for fun. If you enjoy it, then maybe you will be willing to invest the time and money that would be required to get serious about it.
 
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Regarding the title of the post, I don't understand the aspect of "risk". What risk? Just get a couple of cheap movements and play around with them for fun. If you enjoy it, then maybe you will be willing to invest the time and money that would be required to get serious about it.
Hello my friend. Probably you didn’t read my first post where I describe that I have already played around with cheap movements.
 
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Hello my friend. Probably you didn’t read my first post where I describe that I have already played around with cheap movements.

Yes, I read it. So what is the risk are you talking about? Are you concerned about spending a lot of money on books and tools and then tiring of the hobby? Unfortunately, that type of thing happens to me as well, and I have quite a lot of gear sitting around that I rarely use. It's hard to know until you try.
 
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Yes, I read it. So what is the risk are you talking about? Are you concerned about spending a lot of money on books and tools and then tiring of the hobby? Unfortunately, that type of thing happens to me as well, and I have quite a lot of gear sitting around that I rarely use. It's hard to know until you try.
What I mean about risk, is this: after all the Chinese calibers, the miyotas and even the seikos which you have fixed and played with, and after a lot of reading and practising, would you touch a Speedmaster??
 
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What I mean about risk, is this: after all the Chinese calibers, the miyotas and even the seikos which you have fixed and played with, and after a lot of reading and practising, would you touch a Speedmaster??

So your end goal is to repair a Speedmaster?
 
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What I mean about risk, is this: after all the Chinese calibers, the miyotas and even the seikos which you have fixed and played with, and after a lot of reading and practising, would you touch a Speedmaster??

The risk is obviously what you paid for the Speedmaster.
 
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So your end goal is to repair a Speedmaster?
My end goal is to service all my watches. Did I use the word repair?
 
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My end goal is to service all my watches. Did I use the word repair?

Yes, you did...

Hey man. I would not repair other watches than mine. What book would you recommend as a start for communicating with the watchmaker? Please recommend only one. Also one to tinker as a hobby

Service includes repairing.

This is why I asked what you intended, and your answers have been all over the place. We went from being able to talk to your watchmaker using proper termns, to "tinker as a hobby" to now fully servicing a Speedmaster (and who knows what else) pretty quickly.

On top of that you balked at paying what 109 CHF for a book? You clearly don't have any idea whatsoever what it's going to cost to fully tool up to properly service and repair a watch like a Speedmaster.

Even though now you appear to be giving attitude to those who are trying to help you, I'll give you one last piece of advice. Stick to reading up on terminology, and playing around with some cheap Chinese watches.

Cheers, Al
 
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Yes, you did...



Service includes repairing.

This is why I asked what you intended, and your answers have been all over the place. We went from being able to talk to your watchmaker using proper termns, to "tinker as a hobby" to now fully servicing a Speedmaster (and who knows what else) pretty quickly.

On top of that you balked at paying what 109 CHF for a book? You clearly don't have any idea whatsoever what it's going to cost to fully tool up to properly service and repair a watch like a Speedmaster.

Even though now you appear to be giving attitude to those who are trying to help you, I'll give you one last piece of advice. Stick to reading up on terminology, and playing around with some cheap Chinese watches.

Cheers, Al
Why so much anger on me my friend? I am not giving attitude... By all means I didn't mean that... Maybe again I am misunderstood because my native language is Greek and not English.

I really wanted to know if anyone has made it to become a watchmaker by just reading some books talking to watchmakers, and started simply and innocently as that . The elevation in my conversation in this thread begun from talking to a watchmakerm adressing a problem, to servicing and repairing simple things, maybe more advanced and expensive calibers, and then to a speedmaster. I am not giving attitude, and I am not paying God. I am just a humble collector who loves horology and also loves to play with tools.

I am really sad now.. It happened to me before people misunderstanding my posts in this forum


I AM REALLY SORRY IF I MADE ANYONE FEEL BAD. I REALLY DID NOT MEAN TO!
 
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There are few of us who, after a lifetime at this craft, know it all. To dismantle and re-assemble a simple time only mechanical watch successfully may cause some to call themselves a “watchmaker”. But that is only the first step of thousands. Knowing the basic structure of a timepiece is a long way from being able to troubleshoot problems, let alone to know how to solve the problems, and to have the tools to use to solve the problems. In order to become proficient, you’ll need to do more than skim over the surface. Even an intensive two year course in learning to repair watches won’t give you all the information and skills you’ll need to be able to call yourself a “watchmaker”.
 
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But OP doesn't aim to become a watchmaker, does he? Just to "service" his watches.
 
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But OP doesn't aim to become a watchmaker, does he? Just to "service" his watches.

Half a watchmaker can only do half a job. As long as he’s only working on his own stuff, he should have at it.
 
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When the tools to service a Speedmaster cost more than a Speedmaster. Then you need a few years of experience. Then it’s not a viable option in my book.


My analogy is,
Anyone can cut meat, anyone can read a book to dress a deer or animal. But to become a butcher it’s a 4 year apprenticeship.
( I go hunting with mates and it takes me two minutes to do what usually takes them 20 )


My advice is
So become a home butcher or home Chef but not a home watchmaker, heart surgeon
 
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I think it’s cool. I learned how to take apart conveyors and robots with almost no mechanical abilities. I’m not saying that will translate to watch repair but if you put your mind to it you are capable of learning many things. And I only broke two fingers learning the machinery
 
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There are few of us who, after a lifetime at this craft, know it all. To dismantle and re-assemble a simple time only mechanical watch successfully may cause some to call themselves a “watchmaker”. But that is only the first step of thousands. Knowing the basic structure of a timepiece is a long way from being able to troubleshoot problems, let alone to know how to solve the problems, and to have the tools to use to solve the problems. In order to become proficient, you’ll need to do more than skim over the surface. Even an intensive two year course in learning to repair watches won’t give you all the information and skills you’ll need to be able to call yourself a “watchmaker”.

That's a bold claim, "know it all".
 
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That's a bold claim, "know it all".

I thought the same thing...people sling mud on the OP when he says he was just looking for recommendations on how to understand and possibly service his OWN watches (with all the intrinsic risks that entails) and the keyboard experts shut him up and down for it. Then you realize why....some guys already know it all so how can they come down to our level?
 
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There are few of us who, after a lifetime at this craft, know it all. To dismantle and re-assemble a simple time only mechanical watch successfully may cause some to call themselves a “watchmaker”. But that is only the first step of thousands. Knowing the basic structure of a timepiece is a long way from being able to troubleshoot problems, let alone to know how to solve the problems, and to have the tools to use to solve the problems. In order to become proficient, you’ll need to do more than skim over the surface. Even an intensive two year course in learning to repair watches won’t give you all the information and skills you’ll need to be able to call yourself a “watchmaker”.
I totally agree. However nobody knows it all, even the established watchmakers sometimes reach for help. Last time I had a problem with a specific Omega problematic movement. Omega in the past had issued some upgraded parts and my watchmaker did not know that Omega did that (how could he know?).. I reached for help here and a well known watchmaker here immediately realized what was wrong and helped me and I thank him a million times for that!!!! Later another 3 respected OF members also commented on this upgrade and also helped me. Then I helped my watchmaker!! Reading books and servicing experience are two different things. I never said that me or anyone else knows it all.
 
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But OP doesn't aim to become a watchmaker, does he? Just to "service" his watches.
Of course I don’t! 😀
 
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I think it’s cool. I learned how to take apart conveyors and robots with almost no mechanical abilities. I’m not saying that will translate to watch repair but if you put your mind to it you are capable of learning many things. And I only broke two fingers learning the machinery
Yes man! That’s the spirit!
 
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I thought the same thing...people sling mud on the OP when he says he was just looking for recommendations on how to understand and possibly service his OWN watches (with all the intrinsic risks that entails) and the keyboard experts shut him up and down for it. Then you realize why....some guys already know it all so how can they come down to our level?
Thank you for standing by me. !! 😀