would rebuilding this 1603 make sense?

Posts
1,582
Likes
3,780
Hello,

not being too good at vintage Rolex I could use some advice. I could buy a steel 1603 case, hands and trashed dial for 3-400eur from someone I know. I looked around for a movement but I never see lone 1570s these days. I saw this on ebay, a 1560 with a slightly older swiss dial. Caseback says II.65 . I assume that a 1560 in 1965 could make sense but a swiss only dial, not so much?

Pictures of ebay dial+movement (around 3k, ouch, it would only make sense if negotiable around 2.2k maybe):



Picture of case+trashed dial; case sure had a life



What do you think? Stupid idea/abort or proceed with caution?
 
Posts
7,439
Likes
34,269
I don't mind crazy projects as long as I start with a good dial. Otherwise it can be time consuming, expensive and frustrating.

I write these words whilst in the middle of a time consuming, expensive and frustrating project where I didn't start with a good dial....
 
Posts
14,299
Likes
41,172
I guess if you are as desperate to own a Rolex as it sounds to me that you might be, ask yourself what the chances are that you will be happy with the result! And do you have access to parts, should they be needed?
 
Posts
20,913
Likes
47,866
I don't think it will be too difficult to find a decent dial. Unfortunately, I suspect that the movement may be the hardest, since many are probably being scavenged for Subs.
 
Posts
1,582
Likes
3,780
I don't mind crazy projects as long as I start with a good dial. Otherwise it can be time consuming, expensive and frustrating.

I write these words whilst in the middle of a time consuming, expensive and frustrating project where I didn't start with a good dial....

😁

I know, I always say it myself.
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

I guess if you are as desperate to own a Rolex as it sounds to me that you might be, ask yourself what the chances are that you will be happy with the result! And do you have access to parts, should they be needed?

I'm never desperate to own a watch, but I don't like good parts sitting around doing nothing. And a clean 36mm oyster case is good. As for the parts access, well, is it just money. Those movement parts are common. It not like the 1930s AS1034 that is giving me trouble for some time now.


I don't think it will be too difficult to find a decent dial. Unfortunately, I suspect that the movement may be the hardest, since many are probably being scavenged for Subs.

Indeed. I procrastinated for two years and prices climbed steadily.


I'll sleep on it, I'll probably find it is a dumb idea in a day or two. Doesn't make much economical sense.
 
Posts
1,325
Likes
1,867
Dumb idea IMO - just buy a decent one or an old Air-King ( probably still the cheapest Rolex right now)
 
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,912
....or an old Air-King ( probably still the cheapest Rolex right now)
Not anymore. Cat is out of the bag on those
 
Posts
1,582
Likes
3,780
Not anymore. Cat is out of the bag on those

Indeed, a boring old white one is 3.5k now where I am located. Prices are nuts.
 
Posts
94
Likes
248
I personally don't like the idea of a champagne dial in a steel case, it will always smell of transplant.

I do like that steel case though, how is that dial in person? It can't be that bad?

But, as said before, the bottleneck will be the movement.
 
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,912
As said before, the movement is the issue as these get pillaged for higher value watches. The pillaging leaves behind dials, some in very nice shape, so they are out there....but then we are back to the movement.