With increased local armed robberies, I’m no longer wearing Rolexes

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I don't want to see this thread get locked, Erric, so let's continue the discussion privately. I'll send you some information from a different perspective that you might want to factor into your analysis. In the meantime, you might want to consider the fact that violent crime has been a problem in NYC and every other American city for decades and long before the influx of migrants, illegal or otherwise.
 
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I don't need to live in a place to know about a place. Doesn't take much to flip on something other than msnbc or fox telling you everything is amazing and cheery, maybe watch some YouTube videos from people who run small businesses there instead of what corporate media is programmed to tell you this week. Washington Square Park is in disarray, Central Park is a hotbed of thievery, Battery Park is being turned into a refugee camp ... but HEY, I don't know anything.


You got 1 real criminal from New Jersey at least, Mr Gold Bars himself.


My wife had 5 trips to NYC this year for work. My brother and I tagged along on one and hung out while she worked. We walked 10 mikes the first day and 20 in total over 3 days, going from around Bryant park area to the Intrepid and World Trade memorials to MOMA and Central Park during that time. My daughter went with her mom on another trip and walked all over to museums and shows.

There were alot of people on the street. One of the things we love about NYC is the diversity of people. You can hear many different languages. This has always been one of the main features that makes NYC great.

We were more alert on the Subway than we used to be, staying away from the edge. Besides that, we never felt the least bit threatened or like we were in a dodgy situation. Quite the contrary. It felt vibrant. The most annoying feature was the smell of pot everywhere.

I 🥰 NY


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My wife had 5 trips to NYC this year for work. My brother and I tagged along on one and hung out while she worked. We walked 10 mikes the first day and 20 in total over 3 days, going from around Bryant park area to the Intrepid and World Trade memorials to MOMA and Central Park during that time. My daughter went with her mom on another trip and walked all over to museums and shows.

There were alot of people on the street. One of the things we love about NYC is the diversity of people. You can hear many different languages. This has always been one of the main features that makes NYC great.

We were more alert on the Subway than we used to be, staying away from the edge. Besides that, we never felt the least bit threatened or like we were in a dodgy situation. Quite the contrary. It felt vibrant. The most annoying feature was the smell of pot everywhere.

I 🥰 NY


Agreed. I've spent time in NYC nearly every year going back decades and have never been even the least bit uncomfortable. No, I don't take the subway at 2 am or wander around Central Park in the middle of the night, but no one with any common sense would. To suggest that illegal immigrants have essentially taken over a metropolitan area of some 20 million people isn't just hyperbole. It's ridiculous nonsense. Too bad that some of our naysayers can't time travel back to NYC in the 1970s and experience those times. It was far worse then than anything that's going on there now and all at the hands of good old low life home grown legal U.S. resident criminals..
 
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My wife had 5 trips to NYC this year for work. My brother and I tagged along on one and hung out while she worked. We walked 10 mikes the first day and 20 in total over 3 days, going from around Bryant park area to the Intrepid and World Trade memorials to MOMA and Central Park during that time. My daughter went with her mom on another trip and walked all over to museums and shows.

There were alot of people on the street. One of the things we love about NYC is the diversity of people. You can hear many different languages. This has always been one of the main features that makes NYC great.

We were more alert on the Subway than we used to be, staying away from the edge. Besides that, we never felt the least bit threatened or like we were in a dodgy situation. Quite the contrary. It felt vibrant. The most annoying feature was the smell of pot everywhere.

I 🥰 NY


The pot smell is everywhere now that it’s been decriminalized in many cities (including my own). Even though I don’t partake, I’m all for you do you and someone shouldn’t go to jail for a dime bag. But it’s still a regulated substance and like alcohol you can’t just walk down the street drinking a 40 (except in New Orleans but they are a special kind of special down there).
That said, most pot smokers are more of a threat to the snack isle in the bodegas of New York than at posh restaurants stealing watches.
 
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Agreed. I've spent time in NYC nearly every year going back decades and have never been even the least bit uncomfortable. No, I don't take the subway at 2 am or wander around Central Park in the middle of the night, but no one with any common sense would. To suggest that illegal immigrants have essentially taken over a metropolitan area of some 20 million people isn't just hyperbole. It's ridiculous nonsense. Too bad that some of our naysayers can't time travel back to NYC in the 1970s and experience those times. It was far worse then than anything that's going on there now and all at the hands of good old low life home grown legal U.S. resident criminals..
Thank you for posting this.


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Back in the day before he was canceled Bill Cosby made spoken word records. When I was 7 in 1967 we visited New York. One of the skits was about NY. I remember there was a sequence which went something like, "... the came into the subway and cut up the seats and the people."
I was terrrified to ride the Subway.

Then in SF we got BART.

I stopped reading this thread for a while. It got circular. Was not going to post in it again, but a comment showed up in the new post feed. Oh well.
 
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The most annoying feature was the smell of pot everywhere.

Cigarette smoke is a far worse smell IMO (either American or Canadian - they smell very different) and it's even more prominent, even though smoking rates here have plummeted. As long as it's decent pot, I don't mind the smell at all.
 
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Ya it really seems the world things anywhere you are in the US you are in danger of being shot. I have to walk into some of the worst areas of my states capital which is also the homicide capital. Sometimes I do go with an officer who is assigned to the homeless problem in said city (very nice guy) but 70% of the time it’s me or me and a fellow unarmed co worker. I think once or twice and had an issue with someone paranoid and high threatening me but it was easy enough to de-escalate . (People don’t like you walking up on them when they are taking a big hit of crack) honestly most of the time people just say what up and ask me if I have any socks. May sound dumb but I usually keep on my watch they don’t bother me. I hand out sandwiches.
Full disclosure I have been shot at but I was young and purposely putting myself in dangerous situations.

NY China town at least has changed significantly post pandemic. We had a number of friends we would see at least monthly but when the businesses closed they had to head back to China as they were on work visa. I’m talkin brooklyns China town. It was very close knit everyone looked out for one another now it’s loaded with drug deals and prostitution I found it sad.

I don’t want to say crime isn’t a problem but we are not running around dodging bullets daily as some seem to think.

I don’t know, perhaps others have more negative experiences but I seem to be the biggest danger to myself more so than external safety issues.
 
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Too bad that some of our naysayers can't time travel back to NYC in the 1970s and experience those times. It was far worse then than anything that's going on there now and all at the hands of good old low life home grown legal U.S. resident criminals..

I remember how dirty/grimy/seedy Times Square was back then - not to mention dangerous. We used to visit my father's uncle and his family in the Bronx. Some of the areas we went to made TS look like a nice vacation spot. I think a lot of the folks who think things are so bad now, wouldn't emotionally survive going back to those times...
 
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Cigarette smoke is a far worse smell IMO (either American or Canadian - they smell very different) and it's even more prominent, even though smoking rates here have plummeted. As long as it's decent pot, I don't mind the smell at all.


I don't like either one, but second hand pot smoke gives me a nastier headache --- so mmv.
 
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Just because you don't care to stay in the know, doesn't make me wrong.

Sorry, even google says I'm correct:

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Just a thought:

It isn't google that agrees, but the New York Post and FOX- which... don't you hate and mistrust the mainstream media?

Worth considering.

Also... I'm not posting this to get the thread locked, either. These kinds of conversations should be able to occur in a fashion that doesn't result in that, but it seems like sometimes the way things are presented are a factor.

FWIW.
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The current illegal alien situation is perplexing. I have plenty of friends and family who came to the US legally and it was a lengthy process for them. I got no issue helpin people out but US citizens including veterans are sitting in homeless shelters for a year plus waiting for housing. We now have people getting off buses going right into housing. Many times that apartment had someone who had been waiting a years name on it.

It really has been getting to me lately to the point I may have to make changes for my sanity. I had to tell a girl 3 times she lost her apartment ( I couldn’t go into detail as per ordered from the state capital) so whatever the hell is going on that aspect makes little sense to me. It takes me months to find apartments I’m this housing climate.
 
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It isn't google that agrees, but the New York Post and FOX- which... don't you hate and mistrust the mainstream media?

I do mistrust both the NY Post and especially Fox.
 
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I do mistrust both the NY Post and especially Fox.
It’s difficult to take Fox seriously as a news organization after the $787 million settlement with Dominion.
 
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The current illegal alien situation is perplexing. I have plenty of friends and family who came to the US legally and it was a lengthy process for them. I got no issue helpin people out but US citizens including veterans are sitting in homeless shelters for a year plus waiting for housing. We now have people getting off buses going right into housing. Many times that apartment had someone who had been waiting a years name on it.

It really has been getting to me lately to the point I may have to make changes for my sanity. I had to tell a girl 3 times she lost her apartment ( I couldn’t go into detail as per ordered from the state capital) so whatever the hell is going on that aspect makes little sense to me. It takes me months to find apartments I’m this housing climate.


I don't drink coffee, I take tea, my dear
I like my toast done on one side
And you can hear it in my accent when I talk
I'm an Englishman in New York
See me walking down Fifth Avenue
A walking cane here at my side
I take it everywhere I walk
I'm an Englishman in New York
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
If "manners maketh man" as someone said
He's the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
Modesty, propriety can lead to notoriety
You could end up as the only one
Gentleness, sobriety are rare in this society
At night a candle's brighter than the sun
Takes more than combat gear to make a man
Takes more than a license for a gun
Confront your enemies, avoid them when you can
A gentleman will walk but never run
If "manners maketh man" as someone said
He's the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
Be yourself no matter what they say
Be yourself no matter what they say
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say

-Sting
 
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I don't drink coffee, I take tea, my dear
I like my toast done on one side
And you can hear it in my accent when I talk
I'm an Englishman in New York
See me walking down Fifth Avenue
A walking cane here at my side
I take it everywhere I walk
I'm an Englishman in New York
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
If "manners maketh man" as someone said
He's the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
Oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien
I'm an Englishman in New York
Modesty, propriety can lead to notoriety
You could end up as the only one
Gentleness, sobriety are rare in this society
At night a candle's brighter than the sun
Takes more than combat gear to make a man
Takes more than a license for a gun
Confront your enemies, avoid them when you can
A gentleman will walk but never run
If "manners maketh man" as someone said
He's the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
Be yourself no matter what they say
Be yourself no matter what they say
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say (oh, I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien)
Be yourself no matter what they say (I'm an Englishman in New York)
Be yourself no matter what they say

-Sting
Pretty sure he came here legally
 
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Went downtown today.. took sister in law on Chicago Architecture Boat Tour then to a River North rooftop bar restaurant. Beauty of a day. City was hopping with tourists. Rocked the Rolex GMT. Nascar this weekend. I love to see the city buzzing again.
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From my perspective, entering the country illegally isn't the issue. Whether you are liberal or conservative, that's a problem that needs to be addressed with laws that are fair, humane and applied without bias. The issue is using illegal aliens as political pawns (e.g., states like Texas busing them out of state as though they were cattle) and politicians who demonize illegals as being nothing but a group of thieves, murderers, rapists and mentally ill psychopaths. These are human beings whether they entered the country illegally or not. It's the politics of fear and it's all about winning elections, and not about the truth. I have no patience or respect for the politicians who practice it, the media outlets that sensationalize it, and the voters who are dumb enough to swallow it.
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From my perspective, entering the country illegally isn't the issue. That's a problem that needs to be addressed with laws that are fair, humane and applied without bias. The issue is using illegal aliens as political pawns (e.g., states like Texas busing them out of state as though they were cattle) and politicians who demonize illegals as being nothing but a group of thieves, murderers, rapists and mentally ill psychopaths. These are human beings whether they entered the country illegally or not. It's the politics of fear and it's all about winning elections, and not about the truth. I have no patience or respect for the politicians who practice it and the voters who are dumb enough to swallow it.
Amen
 
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Went downtown today.. took sister in law on Architecture Boat Tour then to a River North rooftop bar restaurant. Beauty of a day. City was hopping with tourists. Rocked the Rolex GMT. Nascar this weekend. I love to see the city buzzing again.
Chicago? Great city. I've started and ended some of Amtrak's long distance train routes there and I always build in a day or two to see the sights.