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Wishful Thinking - Watches that have unrealistic price expectations

Mark020
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Anyways worth reading for the bitterness of the listing, as if someone already tried to explain to him he was not doing it right
Poetry 😁
 
mangozac
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I'm looking for a vintage Seamaster and the bulk of the listings on ebay are just crazy. Some low quality photos, a three line description, no indication of the movement and they are listing for the price of a mint condition piece that clearly shows the movement and condition!
 
sonicosa
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Seller calls this this dial “Stunning Tropical”... maybe in the sense that it looks like it belongs in a leper colony.

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DrSpock
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I think the decimal dot in that price have been misplaced?
 
dootcho
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I am taking a bit of a guess since i don't know much about this model but still think that this is being priced on the high side.

I have never seen hands with Bakelite inserts matching the hour markers which makes it peculiar to me but judging from the price of similar models without this feature i can't really see this going for that price (ca 12k USD)

you can find it here


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Peemacgee
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I am taking a bit of a guess since i don't know much about this model but still think that this is being priced on the high side.

I have never seen hands with Bakelite inserts matching the hour markers which makes it peculiar to me but judging from the price of similar models without this feature i can't really see this going for that price (ca 12k USD)

you can find it here


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I think you might mean onyx, rather than bakelite?

Later de luxe versions have a thin line of black paint in each hand to compliment the onyx in the indices - but I think this earlier reference may have had the large triangle painted inserts (in the hands) as there are others out there with the same set up
The case is rose gold, the crown is yellow gold and the buckle is yellow gold.
The dial also looks like yellow gold, albeit a deluxe dial, and has been cleaned removing some of the lettering. (although the indices look as though they may be rose gold, so perhaps its just a trick of the light making the dial look yellow or the lacquer discoloured?)
case is okay but slightly soft

if the crown was correctly matching, in this condition, it's probably a £2,500 ($3500) watch -£3,000 ($4,100) at a push (actually - you can add a couple of hundred £s for the 18k buckle)
BTW its on sale for £9,000+ on eBay but 'only' £5,400 on Chrono 24 (bargain!)

Edit: the reference is 2954 (deluxe calendar) rather than 2943
 
dootcho
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thanks a lot @Peemacgee, you shared some valuable knowledge:

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I think you might mean onyx, rather than bakelite?

You know, i initially wrote Onyx and then thought, mmm.. I am renovating home and have been browsing so many catalogues showing Onyx-looking tiles and never saw black ones, it must be bakelite.. i guessed wrong.. 😬

Also, lots of gold going on here, I always have a hard time assessing gold case condition, you say "case is okay but slightly soft" to me it was fine! I had the understanding that with gold cases you can't expect same sharpness we see in steel models.

I guess i'll have to compare more pictures to better understand gold cases, esp. since one of my grails is a Gold Flightmaster, although if there ever was one available i am not sure how picky one could be given scarcity..
 
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5800€ for a 168.0065 ???

Offer from an experienced seller in Germany


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Peemacgee
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Also, lots of gold going on here, I always have a hard time assessing gold case condition, you say "case is okay but slightly soft" to me it was fine! I had the understanding that with gold cases you can't expect same sharpness we see in steel models.

You're quite right in thinking that (especially 18k) gold cases are often less sharp than their SS cousins but that is because they are softer and have suffered through general wearing.
Unlike gold cap watches, solid gold cases started off life just as sharp as SS, so a really good example should be just as sharp
- this is why a really good example carries a premium over a 'just so' example.
Here is a pic of a SS 2943 sold by our own @efauser a couple of years ago (very cheaply in my opinion) to see what the gold case would have started life looking like
The lugs and bezel are significantly sharper than the gold version above
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Mark020
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Assume you have a deal for half the asking...
 
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