Will omega make a haselite-shaped sapphire crystal for the speedmaster?

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Nope, just trying my best to educate people. Some are willing to listen, and some clearly not.

OK professor. LMAO!
 
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Nope, just trying my best to educate people. Some are willing to listen, and some clearly not.
I get it. Personally, I never disputed what you said and I understood your point about the sapphire being domed. When I said some of the back and forths were irrelevant, I meant in the context of what I believed (and still believe) to be the actual intended discussion point of this thread, which is that some people would prefer the sapphire crystal to better match the hesalite version. I didn't mean the distinctions and definitions also being bandied about are literally irrelevant. It just seemed to me we were starting to discuss two or three different things simultaneously. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it happens all the time LOL
 
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Let's not loose sight of the fact the thread title largely sets the scene as well.

To that, I would assume the thread was always going to be open to meander somewhat to cover all aspects, avenues as well as options drawing on life experience relating to the subject.
This has largely occured to our mutual benefit.
Even if that was not necessarily the intent.

Enjoy those Hesalites while you can😉
 
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To each his own.

I wouldn't be interested in any sort of sapphire crystal on any Speedmaster so I'm fine with Omega leaving things the same. Hesalite on Speedies is what makes me happy.
 
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Anyone who has held a trilogy Railmaster in real life knows what kind of shapes Omega can create with sapphire. And no milky ring, either. That crystal is a masterpiece LOL
Point is, Omega can and already has created truly domed sapphire. It just hasn't bothered to put it on a Speedmaster yet.


Yes the Railmaster has a great sapphire crystal but it isn’t quite the same geometry as the Hesalite Speedmaster crystal. The optical distortion created by the RM crystal is also different to that created by the Hesalite.

Could Omega create a Speedmaster crystal in sapphire with the same geometry as the Hesalite crystal? Probably.

Would a sapphire crystal with the same geometry give the same optical impression? I don’t think it would due to the differences in refractive indices of the two materials.

So which crystals do I prefer (I own all three types)? The Hesalite!
 
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Yes the Railmaster has a great sapphire crystal but it isn’t quite the same geometry as the Hesalite Speedmaster crystal. The optical distortion created by the RM crystal is also different to that created by the Hesalite.

Could Omega create a Speedmaster crystal in sapphire with the same geometry as the Hesalite crystal? Probably.

Would a sapphire crystal with the same geometry give the same optical impression? I don’t think it would due to the differences in refractive indices of the two materials.

So which crystals do I prefer (I own all three types)? The Hesalite!
Dude! How is your RM holding up, and are you still loving it? I'm beyond happy with mine. Thrilled, really.
Separately, well, I never said the shapes or properties of the RM sapphire and Speedy hesalite were remotely the same. I said that if you see what they created with the RM crystal, you might reasonably think they could get closer in shape to the Speedy hesalite than they have done so far. Admittedly I know zero about manufacturing crystals, so maybe I'm wrong.
 
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I get what people love about the advantage of the Hesalite crystal, plastic is very easy to polish out. I'm not crazy about a big domed crystal begging to be snagged on something. However, I personally love a sapphire crystal that sits flush, especially when they fit and look like the one's on the triple date. Sure sapphire will scratch, but I've got watches that I've had for 25+ years with sapphire's without any scratches at all. If you don't swing your arms like a caveman when you walk you can avoid the dreaded door way crash or the wall scuffs and certainly don't wear it when your working on your car.
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I get it. Personally, I never disputed what you said and I understood your point about the sapphire being domed. When I said some of the back and forths were irrelevant, I meant in the context of what I believed (and still believe) to be the actual intended discussion point of this thread, which is that some people would prefer the sapphire crystal to better match the hesalite version. I didn't mean the distinctions and definitions also being bandied about are literally irrelevant. It just seemed to me we were starting to discuss two or three different things simultaneously. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it happens all the time LOL

Now that’s obsequious.
 
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Dude! How is your RM holding up, and are you still loving it? I'm beyond happy with mine. Thrilled, really.
Separately, well, I never said the shapes or properties of the RM sapphire and Speedy hesalite were remotely the same. I said that if you see what they created with the RM crystal, you might reasonably think they could get closer in shape to the Speedy hesalite than they have done so far. Admittedly I know zero about manufacturing crystals, so maybe I'm wrong.
Thread drift, but the answer is I‘ve been distracted by Speedmasters of late, so there’s not much to report on the RM front.

As for this whole super domed sapphire crystal thing, it has been tried...

... but Omega couldn’t see any future in it.
 
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I like the distortion and look of the hesalite but the durability of the sapphire too, I hope they offer it sometime.
 
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The only disadvantage of hesalite is that you can’t use it to reflect sunlight into your enemies’ eyes.
 
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The only disadvantage of hesalite is that you can’t use it to reflect sunlight into your enemies’ eyes.

This reply for the win! Lol...
 
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I think this is probably a good place to tell you that it is not all about you, although you seem fixated on pushing an issue that as the other poster perfectly pointed out is completely irrelevant to the conversation. You are just another voice in the wilderness. I gather that many here in their obsequious way yield to you opinion, but like the man said, just because you know how to change the oil in a Formula One race car it doesn't make you Mario Andretti.

It’s been my experience that readers stop paying attention to sentences exceeding about 33 words. And just because you own an Omega and can post on OF doesn’t make you @Archer . Learning from @Archer about watches is a lot like watching Mario Andretti drive. You can sit back and enjoy the talent, or get mad because you’ll never be that good. Choice is yours.
 
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I don't know what generation Speedmaster this is... but the Speedmaster I used to own never had a crystal this shape. I bought it about 1999-2000.
 
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It’s been my experience that readers stop paying attention to sentences exceeding about 33 words. And just because you own an Omega and can post on OF doesn’t make you @Archer . Learning from @Archer about watches is a lot like watching Mario Andretti drive. You can sit back and enjoy the talent, or get mad because you’ll never be that good. Choice is yours.
Well said. Archer never comes across as cocky or a know it all, even though he knows it all lol. I’ve learned more from reading his posts than I have from any watchmaker from any other forum. He never talks down to people, just speaks the truth
 
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I don't know what generation Speedmaster this is... but the Speedmaster I used to own never had a crystal this shape. I bought it about 1999-2000.
The bracelet looks to me like a 1450 in profile, so this is probably a late 70s(?) or 80s watch. Omega probably subtly varied the shape of the crystal over time, and depending on how much the crystal has been polished, the profile may slightly be different.

After taking a second look though, it looks like it may just be the angle at which the photo is taken. The straight, vertical side walls of the crystal seem to be obscured by the bezel.