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Why do people like tropical dials like this?
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Reasonable question. They do not, in most cases, add value. There are exceptions. Nice even patina however can be appealing and is one of the fun aspects of vintage watch collecting. This one is a bit heavy but still attractive.
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lejaune
·Looks like water/moisture damage, or euphemistically speaking, humidity induced patina.
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SOG53
·There is significant variability in taste regarding such "patina" dont worry if you don't like/get it you are not alone.
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Evitzee
·When I see a watch like that I think of an old man, a smoker, who has had that watch from the start and just won't give it up. And, of course, it has to be on a steel Twist-o-flex style bracelet. But some people like that 'lived in look'.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Like that one?
people don’t.
people don’t.
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Dan S
·A seller can ask whatever silly price they want, but people don't pay a premium for watches like that one.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersI don’t understand why people think dials like this make the watch worth twice as much money? Am I wrong?
The simple answer is, that in the Omega world, they don’t.
However, in the world of another well known Swiss watch brand, where the Emperor has no clothes and collectors have swallowed the dealers crap that any old variation is added value to a watch, they appear to - even if it is just damage to the dial.
There is nothing wrong with patina on a dial if it appeals but the (Omega) watch is still worth less, not more, because of it.
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p4ul
·Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I have never understood the appeal of this, leaves me cold.
I have never understood the appeal of this, leaves me cold.
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Davidt
·I find it hard believing anyone is paying a premium for that dial. In reality 99% of people would value it less than a dial without damage/patina.
The dealer selling it on the other hand will be certain the patina adds value.
The dealer selling it on the other hand will be certain the patina adds value.
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Puma_135o
·I don’t understand why people think dials like this make the watch worth twice as much money? Am I wrong?
I agree with you. Some people also hates repainted dials, even if they're done professionally and perfectly.
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p4ul
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Neither. Still leaves me cold.😀
Some seem to regard patina as embellishment not damage, some like it others not, surely that is to their taste?
Some might argue that I have a lack of taste because I don’t appreciate that particular piece of art, they might be correct.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersNeither. Still leaves me cold.😀
Some seem to regard patina as embellishment not damage, some like it others not, surely that is to their taste?
Some might argue that I have a lack of taste because I don’t appreciate that particular piece of art, they might be correct.
There’s no problem in folks liking patinated dials.
Each to their own -and some can look quite attractive.
The only objection I have is when new members appear and try to call damaged dials ‘tropical’ because someone, somewhere, on the net says that’s what they are - and all too often it is a dealer ( or an ‘influencer’) with an ulterior motive.
As for ‘La Gioconda’, I remember when she wasn’t 6 feet behind bullet proof glass and you could get a proper look at her - and whilst interesting, does very little for me either.
(IIRC there was an entire thread devoted to the perceived artistic supremacy of the ‘old masters’ - with some rather intransigent views on display)
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Pvt-Public
·IMHO The watch the OP shows is not “tropical” or “patina “ it is damaged. But to answer the question of why someone prefers one thin over another. It’s simple, personal preference. You could ask “why do some people prefer ice water over room temperature water?”. Same answer personal preference.
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Davidt
·I do think in general though, despite what many dealers will say, unless we’re talking about a genuine, uniform brown tropicalisation, patina’d dials are worth less than non patina’d dials in good condition.
As an example, both these watches are attractive to me and are the exact same reference. However, I’d value my patina’d one at around 60% of the value of the other.
As an example, both these watches are attractive to me and are the exact same reference. However, I’d value my patina’d one at around 60% of the value of the other.
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Fallout Boy
·I would grab the right one... 😁
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Bernhard J
·A "patinated" dial simply is damaged by light and/or water. And will detoriate further more or less rapidly. And is evidence that the wtach had not been handled with care in its early history.
If a seller advertises a watch as "tropical", that translates to me into rotten and excessively priced. Just like a watch that David Livingstone might have worn in the jungle for years.
If a seller advertises a watch as "tropical", that translates to me into rotten and excessively priced. Just like a watch that David Livingstone might have worn in the jungle for years.
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Sharp
·Ignoring individual preferences, it has become a profitable business to source stock with damaged dials and market it as patina so you will see plenty of it. There are now literally hundreds, if not thousands of mediocre dealers offering this stuff whilst claiming to be offering an attractive/desirable product or that they have some enlightened eye.
On social media this is often combined with lifestyle marketing bullshit, a dozen sweet adjectives, hands in pockets pictures or fancy gloves to add value. Most seasoned hunters/collectors won't complete strongly for something like this when auctioned so you can rake in stock.
On the other hand good clean examples are not easy to find and can be sold without the need for a Chrono24 listing, so by searching on this platform the problem is exaggerated further - you are left looking at a selection of everyones rejects after instagram/auction listings/direct private offerings have allowed people to filter out whats good (I can see the images came from Chrono24).
Another subject really but discoloured/degraded lacquer and tropicalized black paint are two different things thus this isn't even a tropical dial as other people have mentioned.
On social media this is often combined with lifestyle marketing bullshit, a dozen sweet adjectives, hands in pockets pictures or fancy gloves to add value. Most seasoned hunters/collectors won't complete strongly for something like this when auctioned so you can rake in stock.
On the other hand good clean examples are not easy to find and can be sold without the need for a Chrono24 listing, so by searching on this platform the problem is exaggerated further - you are left looking at a selection of everyones rejects after instagram/auction listings/direct private offerings have allowed people to filter out whats good (I can see the images came from Chrono24).
Another subject really but discoloured/degraded lacquer and tropicalized black paint are two different things thus this isn't even a tropical dial as other people have mentioned.
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