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Which Speedmaster is the best one?
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Cougar1968
·The best Speedmaster? The one Jack Swigert timed THE 14 second burn with on Apollo 13.
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ninman
·My favorite reference is the original 2998. MSNWatch's 2998-1 is by far the nicest Speedy I have ever seen:
The FOIS is also a good alternative (similar case and alpha hands):
That is a very nice watch. One thing I don't like about the first omega in space is that they made the crown narrower, which makes me think it must be difficult to wind.
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bananapeanut
·That is a very nice watch. One thing I don't like about the first omega in space is that they made the crown narrower, which makes me think it must be difficult to wind.
No crown guard so actually easier to wind than Speedy pro.
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SC1
·Complete rookie question...
what makes the Ed White so spendy and vaunted?
Is it strictly the 321 movement or is there some other secret sauce happening elsewhere in the watch as well as the movement?
what makes the Ed White so spendy and vaunted?
Is it strictly the 321 movement or is there some other secret sauce happening elsewhere in the watch as well as the movement?
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Eve
·Complete rookie question...
what makes the Ed White so spendy and vaunted?
Is it strictly the 321 movement or is there some other secret sauce happening elsewhere in the watch as well as the movement?
But on a serious note.
Thats the one that was testes and qualified by NASA for the spacemissions.
First spacewalk in 1965 and last moonwalk 1972.
Its the most legible from the straight lug design Speedmasters. Easy to wind. 321 movement.
And its freaking sexy as hell 😉
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chiefenergy
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chiefenergy
·I value the AD experience and keep my watches forever. IMHO the 3861 hesalite represents the best moonwatch.
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Aroxx
··Sets his watchThe next Speedmaster I get…
will be the best.
To paraphrase a very wealthy car collector I know who when asked which was the best Ferrari he had in his collection said…the next one.
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ozzyb123
·321 Ed White
New 321 Ed White
1861 Hesalite
3861 Sapphire
New 321 Ed White
1861 Hesalite
3861 Sapphire
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Evitzee
·But on a serious note.
Thats the one that was testes and qualified by NASA for the spacemissions.
First spacewalk in 1965 and last moonwalk 1972.
Its the most legible from the straight lug design Speedmasters. Easy to wind. 321 movement.
And its freaking sexy as hell 😉
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SpeedyPhill
·the very best Speedmaster ?
And really good value for money ? (still can be found for 4K)
Early to mid-1990s Speedmaster 861 ... bought mine in 1994, worn as a daily beater, it ran without any problems until July 2016, when it needed its first (and thus far only) service as I couldn't wind it any longer... 👍 that's 22 years !
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And really good value for money ? (still can be found for 4K)
Early to mid-1990s Speedmaster 861 ... bought mine in 1994, worn as a daily beater, it ran without any problems until July 2016, when it needed its first (and thus far only) service as I couldn't wind it any longer... 👍 that's 22 years !
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ozzyb123
·Maybe the fact that its the watch thats has been worn on this photo:
But on a serious note.
Thats the one that was testes and qualified by NASA for the spacemissions.
First spacewalk in 1965 and last moonwalk 1972.
Its the most legible from the straight lug design Speedmasters. Easy to wind. 321 movement.
And its freaking sexy as hell 😉
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Complete rookie question...
what makes the Ed White so spendy and vaunted?
Is it strictly the 321 movement or is there some other secret sauce happening elsewhere in the watch as well as the movement?
Logically, It can't just be the movement can it? After all a 105.003-65 EW tends to hammer higher than a 105.012-65 Pro. Perhaps because it is the last of the symmetric cased Pre Moon models which had aesthetic but also practical benefits in that the crown is much easier to wind. To some eyes, the asymmetry of the Pro case is just not as nice. The extra protective side metal (fatter on the crown side) can be seen as an afterthought in some respects. Prior to the FOIS and NEW321 remakes which have made the straight lugs accessible again, the Ed was the cheapest and most numerous non Pro which makes finding a nice one easier than the rarer earlier models. Personally I’d love a tidy all original lollipop 2998 but can’t justify the cost.
Moon exploration history has made the Speedy more valuable and desirable than perhaps might have been expected if another design had been chosen (compare with a 1960s Breitling 806 and 809 Navitmer which are worth a lot less yet are equally charming watches) Weirdly though the earlier models which have no space history, eg the 2915 are the most valuable so that isn't really a factor beyond the name on the dial.
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nonuffinkbloke
·I think my personal favourite, although I could never afford it, is the reference 105012 Speedmaster professional. I think it just has the best combination of design features. The new 3861 gets very close to it, but just misses a few minor things that bug me slightly.
Here is yet another gratuitous post of my Dad's old watch.😟
It seems to be ticking quite nicely for now.....
I reckon my old Dad had fairly abrasive wrist hair...😕
The inside of the case back is in better nick.
I do love a nice pair of short, fat necked pushers
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Owlsu
·It's wild seeing them all together on page 1 in that photo of the 321, 861, 1861, 3861 - some 60 odd years apart but they still all look like practically the same identical watch after all this time. Probably the least changed watch after such a long time period - the JLC Reverso hasn't changed much either after nearly 100 (?) years.
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SC1
·Logically, It can't just be the movement can it? After all a 105.003-65 EW tends to hammer higher than a 105.012-65 Pro. Perhaps because it is the last of the symmetric cased Pre Moon models which had aesthetic but also practical benefits in that the crown is much easier to wind. To some eyes, the asymmetry of the Pro case is just not as nice. The extra protective side metal (fatter on the crown side) can be seen as an afterthought in some respects. Prior to the FOIS and NEW321 remakes which have made the straight lugs accessible again, the Ed was the cheapest and most numerous non Pro which makes finding a nice one easier than the rarer earlier models. Personally I’d love a tidy all original lollipop 2998 but can’t justify the cost.
Moon exploration history has made the Speedy more valuable and desirable than perhaps might have been expected if another design had been chosen (compare with a 1960s Breitling 806 and 809 Navitmer which are worth a lot less yet are equally charming watches) Weirdly though the earlier models which have no space history, eg the 2915 are the most valuable so that isn't really a factor beyond the name on the dial.
Fantastic breakdown, thank you.
Another question:
was watching a video on the Ed White last evening and the presenter mentioned, against the 3861 and at 3x the cost, the Ed White has a movement that will not stand the rigors of use & time without more needed service (than the 3861) due to the fact that it is handmade (vs the 3861 being computer/robotically made).
That struck me as odd yet also made some semblance of sense owing to the consistency of Machine over Man.
Any thoughts on that?
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