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river9
·If you’re happy with 34mm and hand wind, go with a 6694. They’re plentiful, with nice dial variation and you should be at least able to get head only for that, maybe even with an oyster bracelet with some luck.
Would like a 50-70ties rollie, stainless steel preferably on leather strap. That's what I am looking for...
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river9
·Hello
To be frankly speaking my curiosity was arouse I went to see the LATER Rolex in flesh this morning.
Case and movement seem aged consistently with all those day (I would date the watch head to 50s-early 60s). Squirrel and hammer marks look genuine, two refs on case back as yoi can see on pic I took myself while talking with seller. The later claimed was acting on behalf of a relative who has watch collection (the person showed me another Rolex with fluted bezel and some gold timepiece oldies)
So the “6505 ref” stated aboved was a mistake by seller ads. Based on wordings on caseback we have a double refs 6593/6590 with later font height is clearly bigger.
To me for 1800usd I would pull the trigger since the case in 14K looks fine, caliber not too bad (generic crown need to be replaced but I can live with a hand made replica one for about 100usd locally). Factured in 50usd for servicing its final cost would be sub 2000k for a 14k gold, ‘honest’ dial (I brought with me a magnifier lens when I met seller)
So I am quite tempted unless you saw other red flags while I did not.
Thank you in advance for reacting to my rationale.
Below a photo I took this morning
To be frankly speaking my curiosity was arouse I went to see the LATER Rolex in flesh this morning.
Case and movement seem aged consistently with all those day (I would date the watch head to 50s-early 60s). Squirrel and hammer marks look genuine, two refs on case back as yoi can see on pic I took myself while talking with seller. The later claimed was acting on behalf of a relative who has watch collection (the person showed me another Rolex with fluted bezel and some gold timepiece oldies)
So the “6505 ref” stated aboved was a mistake by seller ads. Based on wordings on caseback we have a double refs 6593/6590 with later font height is clearly bigger.
To me for 1800usd I would pull the trigger since the case in 14K looks fine, caliber not too bad (generic crown need to be replaced but I can live with a hand made replica one for about 100usd locally). Factured in 50usd for servicing its final cost would be sub 2000k for a 14k gold, ‘honest’ dial (I brought with me a magnifier lens when I met seller)
So I am quite tempted unless you saw other red flags while I did not.
Thank you in advance for reacting to my rationale.
Below a photo I took this morning
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vibe
·$50 service? Where are you located?
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johnireland
·The biggest red flag I see is your feeling that you must buy something right now. When you eat slowly, you enjoy the taste of the food more. The world is not coming to an end tomorrow. Over the next six months you will see many many Rolexes, so keep your money in your pocket and slowly add to it...all the while educating yourself with more knowledge about Rolex. Learn about the different references and what years they were made, take the time to go on line and visit many watch sellers. Read what they say about the specific Rolexes they are selling. Capture their pictures and create your own library of images. These can then be used to compare watches you see. It is not uncommon to see an original ref. # inside the case back crossed out and another one placed below it. These are often when a watch is being changed from one bezel to another. You would not marry the very first woman you ever saw...don't be in such a rush to by a Rolex. You will enjoy it more when you take more time to decide.
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·@johnireland
Thank you for taking your time to share with me your thoughts.
Good advice of wisdom from you 👍 It made me look back and certainly will think twice before pulling trigger!
To my believes at the beginning Rolexes world is different to Omega one. So that why I asked here first. Thanks for taking your time to reply.
But these Rollies on local ads WERE really fascinating to me - beeing probably victim of all these Rolex marketing efforts 😀
So, vintage Rollies could be my next quest (or never again since am in my early sixtieth springs 😉)
People says "joy is in the hunt" and I am thinking it too, really.
Thank you for taking your time to share with me your thoughts.
Good advice of wisdom from you 👍 It made me look back and certainly will think twice before pulling trigger!
To my believes at the beginning Rolexes world is different to Omega one. So that why I asked here first. Thanks for taking your time to reply.
But these Rollies on local ads WERE really fascinating to me - beeing probably victim of all these Rolex marketing efforts 😀
So, vintage Rollies could be my next quest (or never again since am in my early sixtieth springs 😉)
People says "joy is in the hunt" and I am thinking it too, really.
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janice&fred
·Educate yourself as best you can. Vietnam is known for having the best redialers so if you want an original sourced locally you need to know what you're looking at.
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Dan S
·That watch is total junk. The automatic movement has been replace by a hand-winding movement, the bezel is wrong for the reference, crown is generic obviously. It is something put together from parts on hand and hopefully made to run for the moment. If you want something that superficially looks like a Rolex for a cheap price, then buy it. But I don't know why you even bother to ask questions on a collector's forum and then buy the worst Frankenwatch one can find.
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river9
·Hello
For my education please comment my assessment on this 6694.
1- I knew that fluted bezel was not original to the ref but could it be a add-on by someone in the life of this watch. Bezel and crown are both gold tone.
2- Redial with wonky letterings, minute markers misaligned in some places.
3- Obvious polishing with wrong brushing finish.
What else please?
Thank you in advance for sharing your thoughts.
Edit to add: hands seem consistent with lillopop second one on this ref 6694 is correct on some examples.
For my education please comment my assessment on this 6694.
1- I knew that fluted bezel was not original to the ref but could it be a add-on by someone in the life of this watch. Bezel and crown are both gold tone.
2- Redial with wonky letterings, minute markers misaligned in some places.
3- Obvious polishing with wrong brushing finish.
What else please?
Thank you in advance for sharing your thoughts.
Edit to add: hands seem consistent with lillopop second one on this ref 6694 is correct on some examples.
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river9
·Hello again
I am interested in this Rolex with after market bracelet (Hong Kong made). Seller claim watch heat all legit, asking price 2k usd and something.
It is a 4 digit ref as his claim.
Please share your thoughts. On one seller pic I think it is marked "B0 9035" on movement outerring. It is where I should look for Rolex ref numbers?
Thank you
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I am interested in this Rolex with after market bracelet (Hong Kong made). Seller claim watch heat all legit, asking price 2k usd and something.
It is a 4 digit ref as his claim.
Please share your thoughts. On one seller pic I think it is marked "B0 9035" on movement outerring. It is where I should look for Rolex ref numbers?
Thank you
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vibe
·Reference numbers are between the lugs. I recommend doing a lot more research before making a purchase.
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river9
·Reference numbers are between the lugs. I recommend doing a lot more research before making a purchase.
Thank you for quick reply.
I read "1501" on caseback inner (photo in my above entryb, did't see the Rolex in person yet). And throughout my google searches this number returns same shape watches, especially the bezel design (many reviewers talked about "machine turned bezel"). Anyway those bezels look very similar to the one I posted above.
On my pics caliber I posted lately number and design are pretty close -a 1570 or less likely 1576 caliber- to those on the Net.
Conditions are consistent with a 1970s watch (not yet seen in flesh the Rolex I am interested to).
Dial design consistent too with other "refs" 1501 I found via Google search function.
Seller has just sent me new caliber pics ( please see below)
Please enlighten me.
Tks
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river9
·Miss typing in the above entry using handphone to reply, I am so sorry.
On new pics from seller cal is 1570 (less likely 1576). Movement number DO 99035.
"26 jewels" wordings on caliber.
On new pics from seller cal is 1570 (less likely 1576). Movement number DO 99035.
"26 jewels" wordings on caliber.
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·The reference number is between the lugs and on the caseback, but the caseback reference is not always a match. You always need to look at the case engravings anyway. The movement is a 1575 which is a 1570 with dare function. There are all of the obvious things. What you have here is a Tiffany dial and you are going to have to do some research to make sure you are not buying something with a fake dial (which is likely).
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