What's ref it could be

river9 · Dec 18, 2022

Hello
I never ever own a Rolex, brand to which I am totally neophyte.
Now I am eager to buy one locally from a dealer I trust. He don't have info on the following watch and sell it "as it".
This is a gold capped case (steel caseback)
Could you please help me to id this vintage Rolex. To me watch dial might be touched up (enhanced/repainted).
Caliber is not in best conditions.
I can't see any ref no usually sits on Rolex cases. It's a red flag?
Thank you in advance for helping me to discover Rolex world.

Mark020 · Dec 18, 2022

Caseback suggests ref 8424....

Dan S · Dec 18, 2022

I believe it's a ref 6424. It's a nice large reference, but gold-filled or plated (not capped), the dial is poorly repainted and the movement is tired and filthy. I wouldn't even consider it. What is your budget?

river9 · Dec 18, 2022

Tks @Dan S
My price range is approx. 2k USD
I would like all steel instead of gold or gold filled...

Larry S · Dec 18, 2022

That would be 2k that you may as well toss into the wind. You will have a worthless watch.

river9 · Dec 18, 2022

@Larry S Tks for reply. Sorry I dont understand what you meant. 2k for steel one is not enough or the rolex above don't worth that money. For me my budget is 2k...

Dan S · Dec 18, 2022

If you can find one, you could buy a legit SS 6424 for $2k with no bracelet; however, they are not extremely common. It is the cheapest entry point for a 36mm Rolex because of the hand-winding movement, which is also the reason that they aren't very popular. Some people don't like the pairing of a hand-winding movement and screw-down crown.

Dan S · Dec 18, 2022

A budget is a budget, and I understand that. However, sometimes it can be better to save up and buy a more desirable watch. A 6424 will always be hard to sell if you want to trade up at a later date. If you can save up $3k, you are getting into DateJust territory without a bracelet, and those are always easy to sell or trade.

Or if you can tolerate a 34mm watch, an Oyster Perpetual Date is an affordable option.

river9 · Dec 18, 2022

Am comfortanle with an handwind 34mm @Dan S

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And an other Oyster in 14k case for roughly 1800usd, 6505 refs, same caliber, crown could be generic one (on local ads, not seen in person yet)
What do you think please?

Edit to add: refs No looks very suspect to my untrained eye

Dan S · Dec 18, 2022

I'm not familiar with ref 6505. Please double check the reference, the size, and whether it's truly a solid 14k case.

Dan S · Dec 18, 2022

river9
Am comfortanle with an handwind 34mm @Dan S

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And an other Oyster in 14k case for roughly 1800usd, 6505 refs, same caliber, crown could be generic one (on local ads, not seen in person yet)
What do you think please?

Edit to add: refs No looks very suspect to my untrained eye

You have added a photo of the inside, which appears to say 6593, you wrote 6505. Also, you can see a hand-winding movement, which is inconsistent with the Oyster Perpetual dial. It's important to pay attention to details.

Dan S · Dec 18, 2022

Using google images, I found that ref 6593 is for an Oyster Perpetual with bombe lugs. So that watch is a mess, a total franken. A little research can save a lot of time.

river9 · Dec 18, 2022

Dan S
You have added a photo of the inside, which appears to say 6595, you wrote 6505. Also, you can see a hand-winding movement, which is inconsistent with the Oyster Perpetual dial. It's important to pay attention to details.

Agreed with you .
The later dont have my preference.
Am still learning on Rolex watches which are more mysterious to me than Omega ones 😀

river9 · Dec 18, 2022

On the sideline note. Dont you watch World Cup final match?

Larry S · Dec 18, 2022

river9
@Larry S Tks for reply. Sorry I dont understand what you meant. 2k for steel one is not enough or the rolex above don't worth that money. For me my budget is 2k...

@Dan S defined the issue very well. If your budget is 2k, buy the best vintage you can get within those guardrails. If you aspire to something more, then save up.

Larry S · Dec 18, 2022

6590/Cal 1030 Mid sized Smooth Bezel… No mention of 6595 in the history.

Davidt · Dec 18, 2022

If you’re happy with 34mm and hand wind, go with a 6694. They’re plentiful, with nice dial variation and you should be at least able to get head only for that, maybe even with an oyster bracelet with some luck.

river9 · Dec 18, 2022

Thank you everyone for those sound advices. I will definitely look for something else.

Larry S · Dec 18, 2022

You might want to invest in at least the paperback.

Dan S · Dec 18, 2022

Larry S
6590/Cal 1030 Mid sized Smooth Bezel… No mention of 6595 in the history.

When I looked closely, I saw 6593. But apparently the movement has been replaced.

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