What's it worth please? Choco 145.012

homebrw · Aug 6, 2023

Hello.

I wonder if I may get your take on value of my 1967 Pre-Moon Speedy? It's rather tropical on the dial, and depending on the light can even be milk chocolate. I believe it spent 40 years in South America, but had a relatively easy life judging by the bezel condition. Still has all original parts, pushers, crystal, etc.

I am looking to change up some investments, and wanted to get a feel for if this would be worth reinvesting.

If this is inappropriate or in the wrong place, feel free to correct me.

Thanks!

Boojumhunter · Aug 6, 2023

Hi Chris,

Pre-empting what my wise Omegaforums fellows will say: it's not an investment, it's a watch. If you don't love this amazing piece, sell it. And Ebay or similar will help you discover the price you'll get. Which should be decent at first glance, but potential buyers will want good photos, a decent story, and a service history.

Then, if you want to genuinely invest the proceeds? Do you have expertise? If not, follow Warren Buffett's advice and put it in a tracker fund.

Davidt · Aug 6, 2023

Brown dials are hard to value imo as the premium is so subjective and really needs to be seen in the flesh.
At one end of the spectrum, a knackered ‘tropical’ dial is just damage and can significantly devalue a watch. At the other end, a beautiful vivid milk chocolate dial can add 100%.

Based on your pics I’d say the base watch is a ‘good’ on speedmaster101’s price chart and the dial adds perhaps 25%. Again, this is based off you pics and not everything you need to see is visible.

homebrw · Aug 6, 2023

Thanks. I didn't know about the Speedmaster 101 price chart.

For me it was an investment...an investment I could wear from time to time. It has increased in value from when I bought it. I was thinking to re-deploy the funds in a collectable car, but it doesn't seem like it'd be worth it according to SM101 good pricing even with a nice DON Bezel premium (nicer than most I see) and the even tropical dial bump. I'll just keep it as I enjoy it from time to time.

Thanks again for the feedback.

honza.jiros · Aug 7, 2023

At start I would recommend to look at chrono24 to get some price range etc.. knowing it will probably be a bit overprised... than I´d go through the watches for sale here at OF....

potential buyer would want to see more pics and if you want to sell for more - try getting the omega extract.. once it gets available..

ortope · Aug 7, 2023

Very nice conditions, but there are a few questionmarks:

1. Is the crown original (A1?)?
2. Is the crystal original: Marked in the center with a flat feet Omega logo?
3 How are the conditions of the case back?
4. Do you have the original band of the right year and with the correct end links?
5. Does the watch have an Abstract of the Archive?
6. When was the movement serviced the last time?

Looking forward to hearing from you

Cheers

SOG53 · Aug 7, 2023

homebrw
Thanks. I didn't know about the Speedmaster 101 price chart.

For me it was an investment...an investment I could wear from time to time. It has increased in value from when I bought it. I was thinking to re-deploy the funds in a collectable car, but it doesn't seem like it'd be worth it according to SM101 good pricing even with a nice DON Bezel premium (nicer than most I see) and the even tropical dial bump. I'll just keep it as I enjoy it from time to time.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Its a nice watch with a lot going for it. If you are thinking of this as investment you should be aware that it is a buyers market right now, which may argue for holding on to it if possible.

homebrw · Aug 7, 2023

SOG53
Its a nice watch with a lot going for it. If you are thinking of this as investment you should be aware that it is a buyers market right now, which may argue for holding on to it if possible.

I appreciate that sentiment. Luckily I am in a position that I don't HAVE to sell it. I do love it, even if I wear my Seadweller or daily beater 99% of the time. I wear the Speedy as more of a dress watch because it is older and more fragile and expensive. I've probably worn it <20 days a year since I had it serviced in 2015. Reality is I really don't NEED two watches worth north of $10k.

homebrw · Aug 7, 2023

ortope
Very nice conditions, but there are a few questionmarks:

1. Is the crown original (A1?)? Yes.
2. Is the crystal original: Marked in the center with a flat feet Omega logo? Yes. Patina'd too. Hard to see but on top of the hour hand in dial closeup pic. Also shows well the even choco tropcality of the dial. I do need to poly watch the crystal as I see a couple of fine scratches on the macro.
3 How are the conditions of the case back? Good, with one decent scratch and an odd logo I've never been able to figure out.
4. Do you have the original band of the right year and with the correct end links? Nope.
5. Does the watch have an Abstract of the Archive? No. Now that it needs to run through an AD, it likely won't either. I'm not looking to provide it for next owner. I do have interior pics from when I bought it from a very reputable vintage watch dealer over 10 years ago.
6. When was the movement serviced the last time? Feb 2015. It needs to see another service. Though it keeps accurate time, a full winding is only providing about 15 hours of reserve.

Looking forward to hearing from you

Cheers

padders · Aug 7, 2023

Without meaning to be rude, you might not actually have two watches worth north of $10K since that one, while fairly tidy in general, has less than great hands and isn't as brown as some. To be fair brown is tricky to judge from a photo and it may be more chocolate that it looks there. Assuming it looks brown in natural light, like David above, I'd price it somewhere modestly north of the SP101 $6,500 for a good grade -67 example. $8-9K maybe? Williams pricing is reactive (naturally), hasn't been updated in 2 months and we are in a soft, indeed falling market in general.

homebrw · Aug 7, 2023

padders
Without meaning to be rude, you might not actually have two watches worth north of $10K since that one, while fairly tidy in general, has less than great hands and isn't as brown as some. To be fair brown is tricky to judge from a photo and it may be more chocolate that it looks there. Assuming it looks brown in natural light, like David above, I'd price it somewhere modestly north of the SP101 $6,500 for a good grade -67 example. $8-9K maybe? Williams pricing is reactive (naturally), hasn't been updated in 2 months and we are in a soft, indeed falling market in general.

Fair point, and I think you misunderstood my point. I'd hold onto the Speedmaster right now as it isn't north of $10k, and I don't need two watches that expensive.

Personally I think the condition of the bezel adds something, but regardless, doesn't matter. I got the feedback I needed. Even if it's worth a good bit more than I bought it for, it's not worth enough to sell it. More valuable for me to wear it and appreciate it now and then.

Thanks everyone.

joe band · Aug 10, 2023

sell the shelby?

What's it worth please? Choco 145.012

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