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What vintage Longines is on your wrist today?
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BlueHands
·Old stuff today
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Canuck
·As shown elsewhere on the OB recently. My 93 year old Longines survivor. Decades without seeing the light of day in a drawer of basket case watches. Canadian white gold filled case, original vitreous enamel dial and hands, and an exact duplicate Longines movement from a donor watch, NOS glass crystal, period correct expansion band, and here is the result. Shown here with the distressed original movement, and the replacement.
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JohnLy
·Thats a very handsome watch, what size is it?
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Lépine
·Something quite uncommon, a Czech-lander.
It is possibly military issued to Czechoslovakia not Britain. A couple hundred ordered, not thousand or so like W.W.W. Longines.
Genuine Czech-lander is a 23094 not 23088
It is possibly military issued to Czechoslovakia not Britain. A couple hundred ordered, not thousand or so like W.W.W. Longines.
Genuine Czech-lander is a 23094 not 23088
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Canuck
·Thats a very handsome watch, what size is it?
According to Ranfft, it is a 12 ligne. Here is the Ranfft listing.
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&2&2uswk&Longines_12_92
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DirtyDozen12
··Thanks, mystery donor!Something quite uncommon, a Czech-lander.
It is military issued to Czechoslovakia not Britain. A couple hundred ordered, not thousand or so like W.W.W. Longines.
Genuine Czech-lander is a 23094 not 23088
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Lépine
·No, there is no military markings. None of them were marked.
The dial is a modified "Greenlander" dial that all of them have. The Serial numbers are all sequential. No gaps. All the case back have the the order number 23094 and the individual numbers are exactly as specific number away from the serial number. There is a thread about these I did on MWR. And if you give me sometime, I will find the extract that shows it was delivered to Czech. There are others that were delivered to other countries which no one knows why they were also invoiced elsewhere. If my old memory serves correctly, there were about 100 or 200 of these made. All one batch.
If you do a google search, all proper Civilian Greenlander or Czech-lander will have the same dial and reference numbers. It should not be a broadarrow, but a painted over triangle.
The dial is a modified "Greenlander" dial that all of them have. The Serial numbers are all sequential. No gaps. All the case back have the the order number 23094 and the individual numbers are exactly as specific number away from the serial number. There is a thread about these I did on MWR. And if you give me sometime, I will find the extract that shows it was delivered to Czech. There are others that were delivered to other countries which no one knows why they were also invoiced elsewhere. If my old memory serves correctly, there were about 100 or 200 of these made. All one batch.
If you do a google search, all proper Civilian Greenlander or Czech-lander will have the same dial and reference numbers. It should not be a broadarrow, but a painted over triangle.
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DirtyDozen12
··Thanks, mystery donor!No, there is no military markings. None of them were marked.
The dial is a modified "Greenlander" dial that all of them have. The Serial numbers are all sequential. No gaps. All the case back have the the order number 23094 and the individual numbers are exactly as specific number away from the serial number. There is a thread about these I did on MWR. And if you give me sometime, I will find the extract that shows it was delivered to Czech. There are others that were delivered to other countries which no one knows why they were also invoiced elsewhere. If my old memory serves correctly, there were about 100 or 200 of these made. All one batch.
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Lépine
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23094 7020184 44 = 140
23094 7020205 65 = 140
23094 7020239 99 = 140
23094 7020264 124 = 140
23094 7020296 156 =140
23094 7020345 205 = 140
23094 7020382 242 = 140
Last three of Serial xxx - case number = 140
Probably made as one run. Case and movement made together.
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DirtyDozen12
··Thanks, mystery donor!No there is no evidence I have found or are aware of that specifically says it was ordered by Czech Army.
Note the difference in the movement compared to typical civilian watches.
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DirtyDozen12
··Thanks, mystery donor!The truth is at this point in time, without someone hunting down the information and coming up with evidence, this is just my theory based on how close the build quality is to the WWW Longines and also the fact that the WWW dial was reused for cost savings. I would think that it would be an ugly dial for the average fashionable person who most likely would want some choices in how the watch looked. Note: there were reports of some white dials and broadarrow dials in these watches, but at this point, we can't tell if the watches came with those dials without investigating each one agains LEA.
So you think these watches would be an odd choice for inventory in a typical watch store is my point. Why order a discontinued military watch? Why order 200+ of these when most of the nation is homeless?
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Lépine
·These also did not have military markings. No one knows why they were specially ordered with black dials.
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