What is the deal with lugholes or not on 4-digit Connies?

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After owning, researching, looking, admiring quite a lot of 4-digit Constellations I came to an dead end on an aspect I have not reflected on much before - is there a rule regarding having lugholes or not?

My assumption is that all solid gold ones does not have lugholes, no matter what the reference.
I dont count the Centenary and the 2648 here which I know have lugholes.

So lets focus on the steel and gold capped ones. My assumption was that all 2652 and 2782 have lugholes but the 2852 could have both, probably the early 2852 (maybe some kind of transitional) is the ones that usually have the lugoles and the later don't.

All good so far in my world, but then I stumbled across this 2652 sold here recently (which looks like a very crisp and sharp case btw):
https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...low-gold-accents-some-patina-chf-1450.150582/


I tried research a bit but could not find anything on the topic, is there a rule here? Or could potentially all references have and not have lugholes?

I have not paid much interest in globemasters or other country specific models, french cased, jumbo models and so on so my above assumption mostly referes to the more usual 2652,2782 and 2852. So basically the 354 movement and forward.
 
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I would imagine that the 2852s that didn't have lug holes came on a bracelet originally.
 
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I would imagine that the 2852s that didn't have lug holes came on a bracelet originally.

I don't think so as lug holes are actually helpful when removing a bracelet from a watch, I think it possibly has to do with early/late production but I really don't know enough to comment properly as there could be a multitude of other reasons

Maybe something for OF Expert Investigator @qazwsx1 to uncover?
 
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I am anything but an Omega expert, but I spent some time researching ref. 2699 (18k gold) and there are examples with drilled lugs. I do not have a large enough sample size to be confident, but it is possible that only early examples had drilled lugs. EDIT: I just added/removed some examples to my spreadsheet.

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I am anything but an Omega expert, but I spent some time researching ref. 2699 (18k gold) and there are examples with drilled lugs. I do not have a large enough sample size to be confident, but it is possible that only early examples had drilled lugs.

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Naively, I would have expected a correlation with the cases' serial numbers rather than the movements'. Interesting.
 
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Naively, I would have expected a correlation with the cases' serial numbers rather than the movements'. Interesting.
Admittedly, I had not thought of that. Good point.
 
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If it correlates to anything specific, I'd try to find out when flanged spring bars became "a thing". You need the holes to get a single-shoulder bar out.
 
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So this is an interesting one that is currently on eBay, a horrible repainted dial but lets focus on the 2652 case.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2041231769...ABx9ErdQ4a&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY


The case looks very sharp and has this distibct brushed lugs that I have not seen before. Could it be a mint case, a later service case or just a fake?
Notice the absence of lugholes.

If this is correct its the 2nd 2652 case I have manage to find without lugholes (in steel).
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I don't think so as lug holes are actually helpful when removing a bracelet from a watch, I think it possibly has to do with early/late production but I really don't know enough to comment properly as there could be a multitude of other reasons

Maybe something for OF Expert Investigator @qazwsx1 to uncover?

Haha, @cristos71 thanks a lot for the new alias.😲
 
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I'm inclined to think that the brushing on the sides of the lugs is original, because why would someone go to that effort versus just polishing the whole damned thing?
 
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Was brushing being done in the 50s at all? Especially concentric brushing? My first reaction makes me feel like the case may have seen some laser welding (because of some of the sharp edges), but I'm only guessing.
 
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I am anything but an Omega expert, but I spent some time researching ref. 2699 (18k gold) and there are examples with drilled lugs. I do not have a large enough sample size to be confident, but it is possible that only early examples had drilled lugs. EDIT: I just added/removed some examples to my spreadsheet.

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A Spreadsheet? A man after my own heart. Thanks for sharing
 
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I'm inclined to think that the brushing on the sides of the lugs is original, because why would someone go to that effort versus just polishing the whole damned thing?
I have never seen a NOS steel 2652 or 2782 so I cant be sure but it just seems off to me that this should be how the original finish looks, the distinct brushed lug sides contrasting the high polished case sides for example.
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And how would a NOS or minty case end up with a dial and movement like this?
 
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We're familiar with the term "fantasy dial", I'd say this is a fantasy case. Someone's misguided attempt at refinishing a case, perhaps an attempt to make it look like it belongs with the incorrect bracelet fitted.