What about these 1675 GMT's

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1969Mach1

·Apr 8, 2016

After the last great help on buying a '69 Speedy (https://omegaforums.net/threads/what-do-you-think-of-this-145-022-69.33373/) I wonder if you guys can help me out with a new adventure.
The Speedy is great and a keeper! Wear it every week.

I also like the look of the vintage Rolex GMT's and consider of buying a 1675.
Don't have any experience with the brand and what to look for or what a good/realistic price would be.

Here are 3 1675's I found on Chrono24 but have no idea if the wachtes and the prices are right.
#1:
https://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/gmt-master-1675-long-e--id4095244.htm

#2
https://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/gmt-master-1675-mki-dial-long-e--id4191677.htm

#3
https://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/gmt-master-1966-mark-i--long-e--dial--id4104301.htm

Thanks in advance!

Rob

 

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pitpro

·Apr 8, 2016

Skip chrono24.
Jacek @ (H.Q. Milton) would be where I would buy.
He always has great inventory, will take trades and negotiate.
He's a pure pro and his watches are described honestly.

 

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·Apr 8, 2016·Spell Master!

Neither of those is good. Replaced hands, bogus bracelets, replaced bezels and not a lot of charm.

I agree Hqmilton and also Bob's watches are two good sources.

As for price start setting your expectations somewhere between 9g US to 16g US with a healthy chunk of good pieces falling on the 10 to 14 range.

 

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1969Mach1

·Apr 8, 2016

Thanks. What's the best way to spot changed hands? The relume? On #1 for example?
Any good AD's in Europe which are recommandabele?

Edited: Apr 8, 2016

 

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1969Mach1

·Apr 8, 2016

Found one in The Netherlands:
http://www.cosimo-online.com/en/watch/285/rolex-1675--mk1-(long-e)-matt-dial-gmt-master-from-1970

 

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T<25

·Apr 13, 2016

Don't rule out 16750. Quick set on date wheel is a great feature.

 

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Charlie3755

·Apr 14, 2016

Like any vintage watch, there is a lot to learn about GMT's before you buy.

I would suggest taking some time to read through the volumes of information written by "Springer" on TRF. He is widely considered to be one of the foremost experts on vintage GMT's.

He actually has a small forum that has a lot of very good reference material on variants, dials, inserts etc

https://rolexvintageforum.com/viewforum.php?f=21

 

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1969Mach1

·Apr 15, 2016

Thanks guys!
I really like the matt dial and prefer one without the white gold marker surroundings.
To bad that it's really hard to figure out if a GMT is original or not..

 

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mt_hangglider

·Apr 15, 2016

The 1675 was what got me into watches. Inherited my Grandpa's 1964 1675 and have been a watch junkie every since. Good luck with your search!

 

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1969Mach1

·Apr 16, 2016

Wow amazing!

 

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·Apr 17, 2016·Spell Master!

Here you have a great example...and the bezel insert is original. Only the bracelet is a later non original (1977) polished but still in great sharp condition, beautiful dial.

Great example:

http://rolexpassionmarket.com/watch...excellent-mk1-matte-dial-full-set-circa-1968/

I believe it's in Europe.

 

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1969Mach1

·Apr 17, 2016

Nice watch. The tip of the upper marker doesn't look sharp. Is that common?

 

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Charlie3755

·Apr 17, 2016

Here is another one based in Europe. It appears that this also has a refinished case -still nice.

http://www.cosimo-online.com/en/watch/285/rolex-1675--mk1-(long-e)-matt-dial-gmt-master-from-1970





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1969Mach1

Nice watch. The tip of the upper marker doesn't look sharp. Is that common?

Yes. Aged tritium gets all sorts of funky volume as it ages and edges often square of or get rounder. Rondo markers also loose symmetry

 

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Charlie3755

Here is another one based in Europe. It appears that this also has a refinished case -still nice.

http://www.cosimo-online.com/en/watch/285/rolex-1675--mk1-(long-e)-matt-dial-gmt-master-from-1970





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Nos sure about the bezel insert in that one.

Almost impossible to get an untouched case from a 1675, but if you're lucky it's almost untouched.

 

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1969Mach1

·Apr 17, 2016

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Nos sure about the bezel insert in that one.

Almost impossible to get an untouched case from a 1675, but if you're lucky it's almost untouched.

What do you think of the slightly 'damaged' 10 hour plot marker?
Would that stop you from buying?

 

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1969Mach1

What do you think of the slightly 'damaged' 10 hour plot marker?
Would that stop you from buying?

On which watch?

 

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1969Mach1

·Apr 17, 2016

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On which watch?

http://www.cosimo-online.com/en/watch/285/rolex-1675--mk1-(long-e)-matt-dial-gmt-master-from-1970

 

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Charlie3755

·Apr 17, 2016

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Nos sure about the bezel insert in that one.

Almost impossible to get an untouched case from a 1675, but if you're lucky it's almost untouched.

I agree with your statement about untouched v refinished and mentioned it because the sellers statement "The case is very thick , and still has very nice bevels on the lugs."

What are your concerns with the insert?

 

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1969Mach1

http://www.cosimo-online.com/en/watch/285/rolex-1675--mk1-(long-e)-matt-dial-gmt-master-from-1970

I didn't notice it. I think it might bug me after a while but it all depends on price really. If it is not competitive then look for another. this is mine: