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I'm reviving this thread as I am about to buy one of these modern 300...

How can I tell if the movement was originally from a seamaster?

Wil Omega service the watch or do I risk having it confiscated?
 
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I'm reviving this thread as I am about to buy one of these modern 300...

How can I tell if the movement was originally from a seamaster?

Wil Omega service the watch or do I risk having it confiscated?
If it’s the correct movement type you would need an extract of the archives... at the end of the day it doesn’t matter and most likely isn’t.

Why would you send it to Omega for service?
 
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There is a debate as to whether omega will service a watchco. I don’t know the current status of that debate. Any competent watchmaker should be able to service the watch, probably for less money and without any risk of confiscation.
 
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My reasoning was to make sure it is assembled correctly and to have the movement serviced by an Omega certified technician. The case and dial are new and I'd like the movement to be "as good as new", fully waterproof and pressure tested.
 
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My reasoning was to make sure it is assembled correctly and to have the movement serviced by an Omega certified technician. The case and dial are new and I'd like the movement to be "as good as new", fully waterproof and pressure tested.

A good independent watchmaker should be able to easily do this.
 
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A good independent watchmaker should be able to easily do this.

Would an independant watch maker have access to Omega parts for the 552? Are parts even still available for that movement?
 
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They should. Does it even need parts? Is it running poorly? Your pics depict a very clean movement.
 
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Would an independant watch maker have access to Omega parts for the 552? Are parts even still available for that movement?

Yes, and yes. An independent watchmakers who has an Omega parts account can order all the parts for this movement directly from Omega.

They should. Does it even need parts? Is it running poorly? Your pics depict a very clean movement.

It is a rare thing to get one of these in that doesn't need parts of some kind, even if the movement looks pristine.
 
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I feel what can make a "Watchco" SM300 reasonably genuine is when the serial number verifies the movement started life in a SM300. If it did, then the rest is replacing the worn parts around it.

The Watch of Theseus
 
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Yes, and yes. An independent watchmakers who has an Omega parts account can order all the parts for this movement directly from Omega.

It is a rare thing to get one of these in that doesn't need parts of some kind, even if the movement looks pristine.

You recently posted in another thread that a vintage 321 movement which is regularly serviced should not need service parts, so I didn't expect to read this post, unless it's the fact that very few people properly care for these movements.
 
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You recently posted in another thread that a vintage 321 movement which is regularly serviced should not need service parts, so I didn't expect to read this post, unless it's the fact that very few people properly care for these movements.
He’s seen some bad examples with watchco movements, that leads him to question how good the movements where and how they where serviced.
 
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You recently posted in another thread that a vintage 321 movement which is regularly serviced should not need service parts, so I didn't expect to read this post, unless it's the fact that very few people properly care for these movements.

You are confusing two issues Larry. How a watch movement looks to the naked eye doesn't always correlate to what condition the internal parts are in, or if all the lubrication has dried up.
 
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If you could build Rolex 5513's wouldn't you?

A lot of people do, actually.
But I feel it's a more touchy issue than watchco SM300.
 
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A lot of people do, actually.
But I feel it's a more touchy issue than watchco SM300.
Really?? Where can you get a 5513 with new case and dial? (And made by rolex)
 
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Really?? Where can you get a 5513 with new case and dial? (And made by rolex)

The “made by Rolex” is the hard part.
 
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The “made by Rolex” is the hard part.
Whereas the watchco is made with genuine omega parts. Not the same thing.
 
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Whereas the watchco is made with genuine omega parts. Not the same thing.

People make a lot with Rolex service parts/vintage legit parts/repro parts. The repro ones, some of them, are really good quality. The people who make them have not put in the same attention to omega parts, so there's not much appeal to using non genuine omega parts.
 
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I owned a Watchco SM300 bought directly from them on Collins Street when they were still based in Melbourne and still building the SM300.
The watch is long sold but when I had my watchmaker examine it prior to sale it was his opinion that the movement was like new.
Being based in the same city he had been told at some point Watchco got access to a watchmaker in Switzerland with a cache of nos movements but when these ran out they then switched to donor movements.
Whether this is true or not I think these watches with either donor or nos movement really are just an excellent vintage style daily wearer but certainly not for the purist. And take it to an independent watchmaker.
Cheers.
 
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I bought mine from Watchco in 2016 and apart from a replacement crown needed when I received it, it's been great. Waterproof, keeps very good time, looks fantastic and can be worn for anything from gardening to mountain walking.