Watch Nitpicking

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I’ve been a watch fan for decades and I’ve owned many watches over the years. As far back as the 80’s I had about 30 Swatches when they were a thing. That was easy to do when they only cost about $30 a piece. All of those are long gone and I have no idea where they went. Along the way I’ve had Seiko, Timex, Fortis, Shinola and some other brands I’ve forgotten. I’ve only recently started to think of myself as a collector and I have what I think is a modest collection of 10 watches. Omega, Grand Seiko, Breitling and Rolex. Mostly sport/GADA watches but there’s a pure dress watch in the mix too. Automatics, manual and quartz. Bracelets, leather straps and rubber straps. Dates, no dates, chronos, divers and pilot watches. In essence a little bit of this and a little bit of that. Other than a 15 year old Breitling I don’t own anything even close to vintage.

I mention all that to qualify what I’m about to say. I have a ‘fair’ amount of watch ownership experience and I read and watch a lot of watch content. Two things stand out. One, the influencers rarely say anything negative. They might complain about the bracelet but that’s about it. As such their opinions don’t mean a whole lot but they do a great job of giving a close look at the watch and it’s details. That’s a good thing. OTOH, the people that comment on reviews are the most nitpicky hobbiests I’ve ever known. They’ll completely dismiss a watch because the lume is the wrong color or the bracelet doesn’t taper to their exact preference or the crown is too large or too small. They’re also convinced all new watches aren’t as good as the previous models and anything vintage is king. Frankly, most of their opinions don’t carry much weight with me either because of their constant negativity.

None of the watches I own or have owned are perfect. A handful are pretty close but all of them have an attribute I might have done differently. I still like them a lot and would buy them again. Some of the ones I let go for whatever reason I’d like to have back.

Why is it so difficult to just appreciate a watch for what it is without nitpicking the hell out of it? If it’s not your cup of tea, fine, but why is it necessary to discard it as unworthy of consideration because some minor thing isn’t exactly the way you think it ought to be. OMG, it doesn’t have a micro adjust bracelet! What a POS!

Just something I’ve noticed that seems to be pervasive in the watch community.
 
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You must not travel in the same watch collecting circles as me. Here on the vintage sub and on the other forum I frequent collectors are pretty supportive overall. When something is misrepresented or a fake, you'll see people pile on but that's about the only time.

The one overtly negative on an online forum was when I considered buying a Rolex Speedking. Some of the folks are really off putting.
 
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You must not travel in the same watch collecting circles as me. Here on the vintage sub and on the other forum I frequent collectors are pretty supportive overall. When something is misrepresented or a fake, you'll see people pile on but that's about the only time.

The one overtly negative on an online forum was when I considered buying a Rolex Speedking. Some of the folks are really off putting.
I know what you mean. I own an AirKing and I realize the dial is quite polarizing. Not liking it is one thing but some of the comments I read about the AirKing are pretty hostile.
 
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I have watched only snippets of influencers through the years, merely to laugh derisively at them and and their wannabe, follow-the-crowd followers who hang on their every word or crave validation for their hobby choices already made. Influencers prey on the incapable thoughtless and those too lazy to investigate for themselves. The rest of the thinking world doesn't desire to be told what to think or how to feel and can see right through marketing hype.

Both the watch hobby and the shooting sports hobby seem inordinately afflicted with self important "influencers."
 
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Honestly, there is a lot of 'stop liking things I don't like!' on the internet. You'll be happier if you ignore them and don't care about anyone else's preferences. If you wear watches based on what you think OTHER people will like, you'll never be happy.
 
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You can never please everyone, also one reason I stopped watching watch reviews, its too much noise.
 
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Just something I’ve noticed that seems to be pervasive in the watch community.
you're not wrong.

You might enjoy Bringatrailer.com comments. Gird your loins.
 
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Bonk you have perfectly encapsulated the social media marketing economy. The whole thing is engineered to drive web traffic. The platform, the influencers (sometime self described as “content makers”), and the comments too. It’s all intentionally designed to be self perpetuating to drive user traffic to the platform and sometime directly or indirectly advertise products.

I agree that it’s useful to see a video of a person handling a watch when I want to see what it looks like in real life, instead of renders. But beyond that, the aspirational idea that social media platforms are for peer-to-peer communication or mutual exchange of ideas is obsolete.

One of the more honest influencer videos I’ve seen isn’t by a watch influencer. I think this guy is a video game influencer or something, and here I believe he took a tangent from his regular subject matter to describe what us watch nuts can easily recognize as the initial descent down the watch rabbit hole.

 
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One of the more honest influencer videos I’ve seen isn’t by a watch influencer. I think this guy is a video game influencer or something, and here I believe he took a tangent from his regular subject matter to describe what us watch nuts can easily recognize as the initial descent down the watch rabbit hole.

Nailed it!
 
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Bonk you have perfectly encapsulated the social media marketing economy. The whole thing is engineered to drive web traffic. The platform, the influencers (sometime self described as “content makers”), and the comments too. It’s all intentionally designed to be self perpetuating to drive user traffic to the platform and sometime directly or indirectly advertise products.

I agree that it’s useful to see a video of a person handling a watch when I want to see what it looks like in real life, instead of renders. But beyond that, the aspirational idea that social media platforms are for peer-to-peer communication or mutual exchange of ideas is obsolete.

One of the more honest influencer videos I’ve seen isn’t by a watch influencer. I think this guy is a video game influencer or something, and here I believe he took a tangent from his regular subject matter to describe what us watch nuts can easily recognize as the initial descent down the watch rabbit hole.

I think I may have missed the original point. The only social media I have is this and a couple of other forums. I don't frequent facebook unless I'm looking for something on its marketplace and I had Instagram but got rid of it.

Social medai sites as a whole are toxic environments that seem driven but schadenfruede. I'll stick to my forums full of enthusiasts and leave the "influencers" to y'all.
 
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I still find youtube useful for certain DYI info (like reminding myself how to wire a 3-pole light switch with dimmer) or to learn about something I'm figuring out for the first time. But the ratio of useful/informative videos to influencer videos, which really just seem to be about propagating popular trends or opinions, now swings heavily to the influencers.

Case in point, speedmaster101 youtube videos were extremely helpful when I was starting out trying to understand anything about vintage speedys. Archie Luxury, not so much.

Now that I have some of the basics down, OF is the best place for me to seek and share knowledge about Omegas and watch collecting, in my humble opinion.
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You might enjoy Bringatrailer.com comments. Gird your loins.
No joke. I swear someday I'll buy a Unimog off that site.... 🚛🚛🚛🚛🚛
 
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I think I may have missed the original point. The only social media I have is this and a couple of other forums. I don't frequent facebook unless I'm looking for something on its marketplace and I had Instagram but got rid of it.

Social medai sites as a whole are toxic environments that seem driven but schadenfruede. I'll stick to my forums full of enthusiasts and leave the "influencers" to y'all.
Fair shout. In my mind, I differentiate discussion forums from social media. My criticism is directed at social media content that effectively serves no other purpose than to advertise products, propagate trends, and/or drive traffic to the platform. A discussion board or forum (which social media platforms may provide as part of their services) serves a different purpose.

Perhaps it's more useful to organize it as unilateral content transmission that is passively received by the viewer (like a television) versus bilateral information exchange (like a telephone). Doom scrolling facebook's main social media feed would be the former. Buying or selling items on facebook marketplace would be be the latter.
 
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Fair shout. In my mind, I differentiate discussion forums from social media. My criticism is directed at social media content that effectively serves no other purpose than to advertise products, propagate trends, and/or drive traffic to the platform. A discussion board or forum (which social media platforms may provide as part of their services) serves a different purpose.

Perhaps it's more useful to organize it as unilateral content transmission that is passively received by the viewer (like a television) versus bilateral information exchange (like a telephone). Doom scrolling facebook's main social media feed would be the former. Buying or selling items on facebook marketplace would be be the latter.

Social media comments are mass manufactured, processed slop. Classic forums are more like free range, artisanal slop.

One of the more honest influencer videos I’ve seen isn’t by a watch influencer. I think this guy is a video game influencer or something, and here I believe he took a tangent from his regular subject matter to describe what us watch nuts can easily recognize as the initial descent down the watch rabbit hole.


This was a great vid. I reckon it must have been shared on this forum when it first came out 9 months ago because it all seemed very familiar, but I (re)watched it anyway.

He's spot on about the longevity of watches in a world where most things have planned obsolescence. That was a key reason I got into watches. I can't really relate on the whole telling time differently from a digital watch thing, which Technology Connections has done a fascinating deep dive in. For me, I'm always converting analog time into digital time in my head every time I read a clock.

I also like being able to watch him go through the watch enthusiast's folly in real time. From a cheapo Mets hand me down to "a nice Seiko is all anyone needs" to "well I do like that $2000 Sinn though..." all in one video. 😁
 
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Fair shout. In my mind, I differentiate discussion forums from social media. My criticism is directed at social media content that effectively serves no other purpose than to advertise products, propagate trends, and/or drive traffic to the platform. A discussion board or forum (which social media platforms may provide as part of their services) serves a different purpose.

Perhaps it's more useful to organize it as unilateral content transmission that is passively received by the viewer (like a television) versus bilateral information exchange (like a telephone). Doom scrolling facebook's main social media feed would be the former. Buying or selling items on facebook marketplace would be be the latter.
A fair take. I no longer have a facebook or instagram account because I found nothing of use on either. I don't need some 20 something telling me what I need in my life.

I enjoy some forums and even reddit because they are spaces where there is room for discourse. Something that is becoming increasingly rare these days.