Watch does not immediately restart after hacking

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Hi all,

I got a 2-year old Panoreserve.

Recently I noticed that about 1/10 times after I hacked/unhacked the watch, it does not immediately start to move. It would start to run after I turn it or gently give it a shake.
I know it is not a power/winding issue, because I fully wound the watch and the reserve indicator is full.

Is it already due for a service?
 
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I found this from another forum:
It can be normal for a perfectly good movement to occasionally require a gentle swirl or tap to get it going again. This is more apt to occur if the balance wheel stops in a neutral position. If the movement stops due to loss of mainspring charge, the balance wheel almost always stops in the neutral position. If the movement is stopped by hacking (pulling the crown out) it may randomly be stopped in the neutral position.

I did some experiment myself. It seems like whenever the watch fails to restart after a hack, the balance wheel seems to be hacked at a similar position.

Does the comment have merit?
If you hacked the movement by chance at the neutral position of the spring and balance, the movement would kind of be at rest until you "kickstart" it?
 
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I don't know the caliber, but if the hacking mechanism is a finger that stops the balance, your conclusion is entirely possible.

@Archer has a GO (can't remember which model) so he will be able to give a better answer.
 
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Thanks for the input.

It seems like the watch is otherwise operating normally. Time keeping has been stable.

I don’t know what type of hacking mechanism the Panoreserve has.

It’s kind of a weird quark I have not seen before.

I also cannot reproduce the problem reliably, so I don’t even know what to tell the watch maker lol.
 
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I have a PanoReserve…it hacks like most watches do, with a lever that touches the rim of the balance. It shouldn’t be doing this unless it is very low on the winding. No need to tell the watchmaker anything because if it’s 2 years old it should still be under warranty, so it should go back to GO.
 
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You were perhaps expecting your watch to behave like a chronograph. The seconds hand stops and starts immediately on a chronograph because there is no hack to stop the balance wheel. The chronograph continues to run when the seconds hand has been stopped. There is nothing wrong with your watch if, on the odd occasion, it won’t self start after hacking. Just rotate it a bit after each occasion when you release the hack.
 
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I have a PanoReserve…it hacks like most watches do, with a lever that touches the rim of the balance. It shouldn’t be doing this unless it is very low on the winding. No need to tell the watchmaker anything because if it’s 2 years old it should still be under warranty, so it should go back to GO.
Unfortunately I am just 3 months past the 2 year mark, so out of warranty.

I am not sure if this is worth a full price service at this point, ugh.
 
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You were perhaps expecting your watch to behave like a chronograph. The seconds hand stops and starts immediately on a chronograph because there is no hack to stop the balance wheel. The chronograph continues to run when the seconds hand has been stopped. There is nothing wrong with your watch if, on the odd occasion, it won’t self start after hacking. Just rotate it a bit after each occasion when you release the hack.
Ya, it’s seems like it is as you described at this time.

My options are basically pay for a service vs. wait and watch.
I think wait and watch is probably the way to go at this point.
 
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Ya, it’s seems like it is as you described at this time.

My options are basically pay for a service vs. wait and watch.
I think wait and watch is probably the way to go at this point.
It could do the same thing after servicing. When you stop the watch, what percentage of the time do you find it won’t re-start? If you are extremely particular about precise to the second accuracy, you may be re-setting it quite often. On the other hand, if you only have occasion to adjust the time to the second, twice a month or so, it would be easy to solve. When you push the crown in to start it, give the watch a quick rotation to get the balance wheel moving. If the accuracy and performance otherwise pleases you, your watch really doesn’t have a problem.
 
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It could do the same thing after servicing. When you stop the watch, what percentage of the time do you find it won’t re-start? If you are extremely particular about precise to the second accuracy, you may be re-setting it quite often. On the other hand, if you only have occasion to adjust the time to the second, twice a month or so, it would be easy to solve. When you push the crown in to start it, give the watch a quick rotation to get the balance wheel moving. If the accuracy and performance otherwise pleases you, your watch really doesn’t have a problem.
Honestly the problem could have been there since the start. However, I only reset the watch like every 2 months, so I only noticed it until now.

And you are also right that I am not too fussy about to the second accuracy.

I am I will take your advice and mellow out and see what happens.
If it actually evolves, I can always take it to get serviced.
 
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Unfortunately I am just 3 months past the 2 year mark, so out of warranty.

I am not sure if this is worth a full price service at this point, ugh.
It is worth asking them if it’s only just past the warranty period. This is not normal…