Was this a good buy? 000001 King Seiko

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Al3xand3r

·Apr 12, 2021

Why would you not want to keep it?
As far as I understood this thread right this is the Watch with the lowest serial number?
I would not care if it was 000001 or abcde as long as it is the first...

 

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Russ1965

·Apr 15, 2021

The hands are NOT wrong !

Don't return it just because somebody make that comment.

I have a 7010, both in KS and GS and the minute hand is just like yours.

Keep it for the original reason you bought it.

I ran the numbers through the Seiko decoder and got this info:


Results for movement 45 with serial number 000001 :-
The watch was made in October 1970

 

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JimInOz

·Apr 15, 2021·Melbourne Australia

Russ1965

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Results for movement 45 with serial number 000001 :-
The watch was made in October 1970

You didn't see the discussion about the "D"?

 

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Amg786s

·Apr 21, 2021

surprised no one has pried off the medallion! You almost never see any sort of boxes/ papers with these early KS or Lm models

 

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khangct

·Aug 6, 2021

STANDY

Hands are wrong 😗

https://www.fratellowatches.com/tbt-king-seiko-45-7001/#gref

Those hands are correct for this model, here’s mine near NOS condition

 

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ilayd

·Aug 27, 2021

khangct

Those hands are correct for this model, here’s mine near NOS condition

Well, based on the serial number decoder for this watch, it should have been made in Feb 1970, which would be before OP's watch which was made in Dec 1970... so... not first of its kind then?

Forgive me if I am mistaken as Im only recently learning about the vintage Seikos.

 

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kradakisland

·Dec 29, 2023

Reviving this thread, great information here. I’ve only started my research recently. Can someone explain if it’s common for the dial stamped model number and caseback model number not to match? Like in the above 7010 v 7020? Thanks.

 

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khangct

·Dec 31, 2023

kradakisland

Reviving this thread, great information here. I’ve only started my research recently. Can someone explain if it’s common for the dial stamped model number and caseback model number not to match? Like in the above 7010 v 7020? Thanks.

Yes, very common with Vintage Seiko, here’s my recently acquired
MacvSog Seiko 5, Ref. 6119-8100 (caseback stamp) with dial stamp 6119-8110

 

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SOG53

·Jan 4, 2024

It is not only common, but usual for the dial codes (especially last 4 numbers) to not match the caseback reference codes. New Seiko potential buyers are often confused and think they have identified a Feiko, but not true.

 

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kradakisland

·Jan 7, 2024

Thank you for the responses and sharing your beautiful examples. Yes, it's easy to assume they just swapped out the screw caseback with another model.I've read a couple dozen articles on the KS, scrutinized the ksinfo website, as well as a lot of keyword searches on the 'forgotten history of the ks' website to start. Let me ask here 1) The back of KS vintag ebuckles some just say "T" others "JAPAN T", are they both legit? 2) the typed model info at six o'clock it seems to move by model/year/suffix, is there a set rule of how it should be positioned? 3) Lastly, if there is a thread I'm missing that summarizes these small rules when buying (IE: in the JAPAN type, the "A" is flat top, not a point)? TIA

 

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Dan S

·Jan 7, 2024

This was a funny thread.

 

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SydR

·Jan 7, 2024

kaplan

Thank you ❤️

Edit: It seems to be from 1971 tho, so still, it's something 😀

Google translate comes up with the following:

Warranty
Product name King Seiko
Quality 15 type 17 stones
Piece number S.S.45-70101
Machine number 000001
Goods? Number 140-1000
Date of purchase: February 7, 1972
The watch you purchased has been thoroughly inspected, but if it has been damaged within 6 months.
In the event of a spontaneous breakdown, please present this certificate.
Anshindo Co., Ltd.