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Vintage Tissot PR16 - any red flags?

  1. Gui13250 Jan 9, 2021

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    Hi all,
    I’ve seen a really nice Tissot PR516 with lemania 1873 on a French website.
    The watch seems likes new.... but do not have pics of the mouvement.

    Is it normal that the lume on the hands has a different color from the lume on the dial?

    Do you see any red flags that I may have missed?

    I don’t know much about those vintage Tissot...any idea of what it worth?
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  2. janice&fred Jan 9, 2021

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    Man that thing is stunning. While I don't know the market on those, I would guess this example shown would command a very big premium. :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Screwbacks Jan 9, 2021

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    good luck.
     
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  4. zoohannover Jan 9, 2021

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  5. Gui13250 Jan 9, 2021

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    Indeed it’s stunning! But I have absolutely no idea of a fair price range...
    Is around 1000€ a fair price?
     
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  6. zoohannover Jan 9, 2021

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  7. Wuza72 Jan 9, 2021

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    2012 one was sold for 750€ over a german watch forum.

    So i would say yes it´s a fair price for a watch in this condition.
     
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  8. Omegafanman Jan 9, 2021

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  9. janice&fred Jan 9, 2021

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    Yes I think an example in that kind of stellar condition will steadily rise in value. :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Gui13250 Jan 9, 2021

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  11. vibe Jan 9, 2021

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    That looks really great, snatch it up!
     
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  12. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jan 9, 2021

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    But only if you don't wear it. :(
     
  13. janice&fred Jan 9, 2021

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    Yea true.
     
  14. Gui13250 Jan 9, 2021

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    I’m not willing to flip on watch’s I buy, I just want to have nice watch, try new vintage watch etc...

    So it is ok for me to buy, then enjoy it few months / years, then eventually sell it. If I sell it the price i bought it, it is perfect, if I loose 100 to 200€, it is still ok for me.
    it is not my job, just want to have fun with them and not loose too much money :)
     
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  15. Willbur Jan 9, 2021

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    The watch is mentioned as NOS so price is in line with it.
    Used one are more around 700-800€.
    For the lume, some of this models have a more green colour instead of yellow of hands.
     
  16. airansun In the shuffling madness Jan 9, 2021

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    You have to add it to a rotation where it’s only worn occasionally. After a few months, you can retire it for a while. Then, bring it back into the rotation from time to time. Once bought, I wouldn’t sell it unless dire circumstances forced my hand — it’s that exceptional.

    Don’t have a rotation yet? Then you need to collect more vintage watches.

    Given the condition of this one, I’d establish a big rotation right away. Beautiful piece!
     
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  17. tritto Jan 9, 2021

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    I have a similar two register model (Tissot cal 872/Lemania 1272 iirc). The lume on mine is a cream colour, but the hands have blackened - a common "feature" where the seals have been compromised. Mine came out of a humid environment and I had the replace all the gaskets to stop it steaming up on the wrist.
    They come with both a red and a black pulsations bezel. Getting one with a good bezel is critical, as they're very difficult to find.
    A lovely hand winding movement, that is based on the same Lemania movement (1272/1273) as the three register 861 Speedmaster movement.
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  18. Gui13250 Jan 10, 2021

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    So, current asking price is 1000€, I will have to add around 300€ to get it service....
    I was not on the hunt for it, but definitely willing to add a nice chrono to my rotation...

    I’ve never seen one in real life, it would help to take my decision :)
     
  19. Dries Jan 10, 2021

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    1000€ is fair value, given the condition and the bracelet.

    The green lume might become hard to ignore after a while (but I think lume on hands and dial is original).

    As said above, Tissot offer an extract-services, but I wouldn't bother as they virtually only give you back the information you can feed them.
     
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  20. ewand Jan 11, 2021

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    It's on eBay as well, looking for €1500 so you'd be doing well to get it for €1000. I have one of the same models - it's reference 40528-1X - the hands are much darker but the lume is still a bit "green" and it's clearly not in as good condition as the one at the top. Then again, it cost me less than €1000 ...

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    These are great on the wrist though I prefer the first one I got, which is 40528-2X - the creamy lume and the less angular subdials is a lot less "1970s BABY!" than the one above...

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