Vintage railmaster & Seamaster Fakes?

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Hi, I'm trying to figure out if these two watches are fakes. They both have snap backs? The Seamaster is 34mm and the railmaster is 33mm. I can't seem to open them, I can't seem to find any purchase with my blade. I also can't find any comps. Any helpful information would be welcome. Thank you..
 
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Both are pretty obvious redials. What is under the hood could be anything from a junk quartz movement, to copies of the declaration of independence. Likely not worth very much unfortunately.
 
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Both are pretty obvious redials. What is under the hood could be anything from a junk quartz movement, to copies of the declaration of independence. Likely not worth very much unfortunately.
Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the objective reinforcement of what I was thinking. They both have noisy automatic movements..so I wanted some extra opinions. Thx!
 
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"under the hood" = open them and take pics of the movement and inside case backs. You will get a lot more help here.
 
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Yep, I can't seem to pop them open with out getting overly aggressive but thank you.
 
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Theyre genuine Omega watches with fantasy redials. Id wager they have Omega movement in poor condition. Avoid
 
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despite the Railmaster definitely has not a railmaster case, it would be
interesting to have a look inside both easy to open