Vintage Omega Speedmaster Racing 145.022 Grey Dial

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Hey,

since the price is allready on 22K €, I guess this offer is no secret anymore. There is an Vintage Speedmaster Racing for auction on Ebay Germany right now. As rare as these watches are, I thought let us all guess the final price.

My bet is 55K€ 😁

https://www.ebay.de/itm/178013565329

Besides the ugly new bracelet and no movement shot yet, is anything wrong with it?

Nico

 
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55K Euro is crazy unless you really, really like it. The fact that the 3570.40 Japan Racing exists kind of ruins the special-ness of this piece.
 
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I think the hands are from a MKII Speedmaster (most easily seen in that fat hour hand.) Makes me wonder what else might have been changed…
 
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Ok, regarding William, 55k would be on the lowest end:


Do you really think the chart applies to today’s market for special models? 😅
 
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IMO, the beauty of these is in vivid dial colors, and the photos make the dial look quite faded.
 
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I think the hands are from a MKII Speedmaster (most easily seen in that fat hour hand.) Makes me wonder what else might have been changed…
It sure looks like it. Which basically renders this watch an eternal project. I wouldn't have too high hopes of finding a correct vintage hand set for a model this rare.

I have recently seen a fully original example of this exact watch sell for 50k EUR, so I guess Williams' pricing might not be too far off at today's exchange rates. Doesn't matter much though. Applying the reference price for a 'Fair' to 'Good' special edition watch on a piece which lacks one of the two really distinctive features hat set this piece apart from any other Speedy of that era is a little naive, imho.
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Fair enough, I just wanted to discuss the watch and make the posting a bit spicy.
Despite the condition these watches are rarely seen. Thanks for your comments so far.
 
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Fair enough, I just wanted to discuss the watch and make the posting a bit spicy.
Despite the condition these watches are rarely seen. Thanks for your comments so far.

Appreciate that! A lot. And I’m curious to see the outcome. I just realized I didn’t actually play. So here we go, I think this one will end at around 32K EUR.
We’ll know in two days. 😉
 
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It sure looks like it. Which basically renders this watch an eternal project, I wouldn't have too high hopes of finding a correct vintage hand set for a model this rare.

Thought those were the same than the ones on some MkII racing ?

They might have been replaced during a modern service, that would also explain the bracelet...
 
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Thought those were the same than the ones on some MkII racing ?

Not really. They have a similar styling, but slightly different length and profile. Probably irreplaceable, I’m afraid.
 
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The dial shows a step so probably original and it does have a nice DO90 bezel. The hands are MKII indeed and
Probably irreplaceable, I’m afraid.
so i say no more then 25K .
 
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Well those hands do not match the hands I expect to see on an original Grey racing.

As to the original post. The watch itself could well be a cheap way into ownership as there are some risks

The case is very polished. The hands are wrong, the bracelet is wrong. So we have to ask what else has happened to the watch, perhaps even a dial swap. Also the dial may be disappointing.

That said, this could be an old school private seller with the chance of a genuine grey at a good price. It has the dot over 90 bezel.

EBay is not the best place to sell this, and so that will work against the final price. It’s going to be an interesting transaction to try and complete at the level it is even now. Imagine trying to buy this from the USA - so that is going to knock out a lot of bidders.

In my head I think a very good condion watch is going to sell around $85k. At that level, the dial must be clean, the bezel clean, the case has clear lines, the case back has clean lines, and it has an extract of the archives. The OP watch has none of these, so perhaps the best way to value this is the dial and bezel. But we can’t see the dial.

This needs to be seen to be valued properly, and still there will be a question mark over the originality of the dial without an extract.

Finally, I do own a grey with Omega Service history that looks like this:



The dial and hands were fitted by Omega in Bienne about 20 years ago
 
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Imagine trying to buy this from the USA - so that is going to knock out a lot of bidders.
He is not shipping International according to the add, so that is limiting the buyer pool. Maybe on request only ?