Vintage Omega Constellation - Restoration

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That's probably about 3x what a basic service should cost, but they are apparently including a dial, which would be nice to have because yours is in bad shape. Make sure that the markers match the case color, and you will also need hands.

Also, I don't know how important the watch is to you, but $1500 is probably more than the value of the watch after restoration.
What do you think would be the value of this watch? Once its fixed?
 
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That’s what I was afraid of - as the watch looks to be yellow gold.
I will defenitly be asking them about the pink indice. I believe this should be yellow
 
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Reading this thread I must say I do not understand the reason to replace the dial. It is an heirloom watch with a dial that has expected imperfections around the indices, but still presentable.
I would want to wear it as my grandfather saw it, and simply have the movement serviced and replace the crystal. Then put it on nice leather strap and wear it proudly.
 
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The problem is that the watch is a vintage dress watch and not a dive watch. The latter is allowed to look like a well-used Land Rover.
 
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I would find a reputable independent watchmaker, give it a service, have someone competent give the hands a relume with appropriate color, and try wearing the watch for a while, before considering replacing the hands and dial. The dial imperfections are seen at way beyond life size in this thread, I wonder if IRL it may look pretty good, plus it has the family history as-is. If you end up actually wearing it a bit, and the dial is really bothering you, then you can consider replacing it (and keep the original dial/hands so you can always swap back).
 
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I would find a reputable independent watchmaker, give it a service, have someone competent give the hands a relume with appropriate color, and try wearing the watch for a while, before considering replacing the hands and dial. The dial imperfections are seen at way beyond life size in this thread, I wonder if IRL it may look pretty good, plus it has the family history as-is. If you end up actually wearing it a bit, and the dial is really bothering you, then you can consider replacing it (and keep the original dial/hands so you can always swap back).
A fair perspective, however the fact that a dial exists for this is a near miracle, and no one knows how long these dials will be available. My guess is that once current stock runs out, that will be it. Delay could eliminate the chance of having a new dial, and then the OP would be left with having it refinished.
 
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So I spoke with the watch
You are absolutely correct.
There is a jumbo reference that has the ‘missing text’ dial (14777) so it could be that.

We should give the watchmaker credit that they have actually had the back off and looked at the reference.

Interesting that there are any Omega sourced service dials available at all.

@elee530 would you be so kind as to measure the width of the case excluding the crown please.
When I asked them, they said the diameter is 34-35mm
 
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I met the watchmaker. They show me a picture of the Indice. All the parts are coming from Omgea themselves. They will also give me my old parts back as well. So now I am gonna look for a leather watch strap. Any recommendations? They said I need an 18mm watch strap.
 
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Yeah, I would grab that dial. You can always re-install the old one if you prefer, but it would be amazing to have the option.

25 pages (and counting) of strap suggestions here. Croc/lizard is good on a gold Constellation, IMO, but really it's your choice.
 
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So I spoke with the watch

When I asked them, they said the diameter is 34-35mm
The dial indicated is "correct" for the following 3 case references per the Omega Extranet:
14777
1680001
1680020

If the 34-35mm is correct then the watch is almost certainly a 14393.

@Archer
Is there anyway of finding out if the dial that fits the 14777 37mm jumbo also fits the smaller, standard, Constellation of the same style?
 
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I met the watchmaker. They show me a picture of the Indice. All the parts are coming from Omgea themselves. They will also give me my old parts back as well.
I will defenitly be asking them about the pink indice. I believe this should be yellow
Did they clarify the ‘pink’ reference for the dial?
 
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If the 34-35mm is correct then the watch is almost certainly a 14393.

@Archer
Is there anyway of finding out if the dial that fits the 14777 37mm jumbo also fits the smaller, standard, Constellation of the same style?
Not Archer, but I can tell you that the dials of jumbo Connies 168.001 and 14777 absolutely do not fit 14393s, 14381s etc. It’s not even close.

Which makes me wonder what’s going on there. I had no idea jumbo service dials are readily available from Omega ( @Archer would it be possible for you to share pics from the database?) and I do not understand what the shop is doing there, potentially ordering a dial for an incorrect reference. The case backs also aren’t interchangeable between the refs, so how they get the idea this might be a good fit is above me.
 
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I think the 168.0020 on the Omega extranet must be a typo (or aberration ) as I can only see this reference matching a Deville.
And if they meant 168.0002, that would be a gold, standard sized dial in a grand luxe horned-lugged case.
Edited for spelling.
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If the 34-35mm is correct then the watch is almost certainly a 14393.

@Archer
Is there anyway of finding out if the dial that fits the 14777 37mm jumbo also fits the smaller, standard, Constellation of the same style?
Not without trying it.
 
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I think the 168.0020 on the Omega extranet must be a typo (or abbreviation) as I can only see this reference matching a Deville.
And if they meant 168.0002, that would be a gold, standard sized dial in a grand luxe horned-lugged case.
 
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Not Archer, but I can tell you that the dials of jumbo Connies 168.001 and 14777 absolutely do not fit 14393s, 14381s etc. It’s not even close.

Which makes me wonder what’s going on there. I had no idea jumbo service dials are readily available from Omega ( @Archer would it be possible for you to share pics from the database?) and I do not understand what the shop is doing there, potentially ordering a dial for an incorrect reference. The case backs also aren’t interchangeable between the refs, so how they get the idea this might be a good fit is above me.
No, not going to do that. The last time I posted a bunch of dial photos from the Extranet Omega got on my ass about it, and I had to delete all the pics.

I suspect what the watchmaker is doing, is actually looking at the case number inside the case back, and ordering according to that. That is after all, how you do it. Unless this watchmaker is completely out to lunch, he's not going to order a dial for that kind of money, have it be wrong, and then not be able to return it (you cannot return parts because you ordered the wrong thing, so he would have to eat the cost of that dial). I trust what this watchmaker is doing more then the measurement that's been given, but that's just me as I do this for a living and know the consequences of screwing up.

I'm baffled why the watch owner decided not to take a photo inside the case back, or even write that number down, because it would end all speculation.
 
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For clarity - I did mean a typo by Omega rather than yourself.
And I was meant to write aberration but spellcheck stepped in.
I think the reference to Deville I mentioned earlier may have been a typo by HQ Milton - probably meant to be a 166.020
(I can’t find a 168.020)
 
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No, not going to do that. The last time I posted a bunch of dial photos from the Extranet Omega got on my ass about it, and I had to delete all the pics.

Ouch, I had no idea. Thanks for the clarification!
 
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Did they clarify the ‘pink’ reference for the dial?
yeah they did. It is what Omega listed it as. The guy showed me their Omega Account, and it showed the actual picture of the Indice.
 
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No, not going to do that. The last time I posted a bunch of dial photos from the Extranet Omega got on my ass about it, and I had to delete all the pics.

I suspect what the watchmaker is doing, is actually looking at the case number inside the case back, and ordering according to that. That is after all, how you do it. Unless this watchmaker is completely out to lunch, he's not going to order a dial for that kind of money, have it be wrong, and then not be able to return it (you cannot return parts because you ordered the wrong thing, so he would have to eat the cost of that dial). I trust what this watchmaker is doing more then the measurement that's been given, but that's just me as I do this for a living and know the consequences of screwing up.

I'm baffled why the watch owner decided not to take a photo inside the case back, or even write that number down, because it would end all speculation.
I will ask the watchmaker for a photo. Didnt really cross my mind.