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·Random piece of etymological trivia: the word "jumbo" is named after the elephant, not the other way around.
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·Random piece of etymological trivia: the word "jumbo" is named after the elephant, not the other way around.
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hoipolloi
·Yes, 37mm and up are jumbos.
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TimeODanaos
·That just makes me sad
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Pgomeg
·the term jumbo is used in the language of commerce and advertising, with a positive function, with reference to products of a larger than normal size. in the already large jumbo products there is one or very few, as was the jumbo elephant in nature.
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Pgomeg
·and represents greatness, robustness and exclusive
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Flip
·Happy New Year All !
I’ve been doing a bit of digging around oversized and Jumbo cased Omegas and as there are numerous 37mm and 38mm references I’m inclined to think 37mm is “oversized” and 38mm is “Jumbo”
There's an oversized case here and the dealer advertises it as such, reference 2503 (37mm so not sure if adds to the list @Rman ?) Dial looks to have been redone at some point
https://watchesoflancashire.com/product/1952-omega-2503-19-oversize/
I’ve been doing a bit of digging around oversized and Jumbo cased Omegas and as there are numerous 37mm and 38mm references I’m inclined to think 37mm is “oversized” and 38mm is “Jumbo”
There's an oversized case here and the dealer advertises it as such, reference 2503 (37mm so not sure if adds to the list @Rman ?) Dial looks to have been redone at some point
https://watchesoflancashire.com/product/1952-omega-2503-19-oversize/
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Flip
·For 30mm movement watches I'd say 37mm too, but for 50s automatics, 36mm is my threshold. After all, they are larger versions of the more common 34mm (34.5mm for bumpers) cased watches.
The very definition of what makes a watch "jumbo", IMO = a watch that is truly oversize, ie larger than it needs to be and with a smaller cased reference to compare it to
Way too much time on my hands at the moment so have been scouring this forum plus the net in general for a definite answer to the question. As far as I can find Omega never branded any watch as “Jumbo” so the term is used by collectors, dealers and enthusiasts only. That said, I quoted the attached reply as it gives as solid an explanation on the subject as I can find, when you consider certain models have standard and oversized cases. A larger version of the same watch could arguably be referred to as a “Jumbo” version and that to many sums up the term perfectly.
However, it would appear collectors and dealers alike usually consider large “time only” dress watches of the 1940’s/50’s as the Jumbo. Some include 36mm cases in this category and this is where the use of the term Jumbo is imho incorrect. I would go as far to say 37mm is not a Jumbo either when there are 38mm cases, let’s face it, how can they both be Jumbo when one is bigger than the other ? Maybe one is a small jumbo ( with a small j ) and the other a large Jumbo ( with a capital J ) ? 😉 😁
This post from another thread is interesting, note the wording .....
https://omegaforums.net/threads/whats-the-skinny-with-the-1940s-omega-jumbo-dress-watches.30623/
To sum up, “Jumbo” is an arbitrary term when it comes to Omegas 😉
..... but I still think it means 38mm 😁
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Pgomeg
·if omega would write jumbo there is no fun looking for them and having the difference between watches. if you are a collector you find fun looking for them and satisfaction when you have found it. you are a dealer you know that watch deserves a prize right?
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Flip
·I’m neither a dealer nor a collector, if that is what you are asking ? I just research what takes my eye and agree that’s a big proportion of the fun of being into watches 😀
Anyway, back on subject, look at this beauty currently for sale 🥰
Though believe the hands should be painted ?
https://www.shucktheoyster.com/omega-vintage-oversize-calatrava-ck859/
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Rman
·To sum up, “Jumbo” is an arbitrary term when it comes to Omegas 😉
..... but I still think it means 38mm 😁
So by your own definition (which I don’t agree with) 38mm isn’t the largest and is therefor not jumbo, there are 39mm and 40mm references in the dress watch time only landscape.
Although I agree completely with @ConElPueblo’s definition it is OK not to pin down and codify everything in life, particularly when it comes to matters of art and enjoyment.
You may as well police the use of the word “Calatrava” which has often been attached to the word “jumbo.” Some have tried here on OF but it hasn’t slowed down its use outside of our pedant’s paradise.
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·So by your own definition (which I don’t agree with) 38mm isn’t the largest and is therefor not jumbo, there are 39mm and 40mm references in the dress watch time only landscape.
Although I agree completely with @ConElPueblo’s definition it is OK not to pin down and codify everything in life, particularly when it comes to matters of art and enjoyment.
You may as well police the use of the word “Calatrava” which has often been attached to the word “jumbo.” Some have tried here on OF but it hasn’t slowed down its use outside of our pedant’s paradise.
Exactly! My point was how can 36 or 37 be Jumbo when there are bigger cases ? I said I think Jumbo means 38mm because that’s what my watch is 😁
( to be honest I could do with some digital callipers to accurately measure mine, I’d say it’s at least 38mm, if so I’ll be calling it super Jumbo 😲 .... anything bigger will henceforth be labelled Super Duper Jumbo
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Pgomeg
·I’m neither a dealer nor a collector, if that is what you are asking ? I just research what takes my eye and agree that’s a big proportion of the fun of being into watches 😀
Anyway, back on subject, look at this beauty currently for sale 🥰
Though believe the hands should be painted ?
https://www.shucktheoyster.com/omega-vintage-oversize-calatrava-ck859/
you are neither a dealer nor a collector, but you publish watches for sale. let's talk about the word jumbo attributed to omega watches. I think there are people in the forum who know very well what it means. maybe one day they express themselves.
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·I don’t publish watches for sale 😕 I attached links to dealer sales relevant to the thread I posted them in. I am not the seller of the watches posted, nor am I on commission for that matter.
As already mentioned, the word “Jumbo” when describing an Omega case is an arbitrary term no matter who uses it 😉
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Pgomeg
·omega when it produces pieces that are not standard, the term attributed by collectors is jumbo. jumbo was an elephant different from other elephants. for each jumbo watch one should say the reason or piece because jumbo and the interested collector knows this. this is just my idea.
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Pgomeg
·to be a true jumbo watch it must have that thing that classifies it as jumbo
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François Pépin
·As I have rather small wrists, I do not have real jumbos. But I like this one:
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoJumbo with a Red Star:
