Vintage Constellation - help please

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Ah, I did not realize that the value is assessed by the agent. I figured it was based on the actual paid/sale price. That would make it a risky proposition since the valuation can be much higher than what the actual value is.

The customs fees/taxes will be based on the declared value and will not be based on a valuation by an assessor. I don't know where @ilayd gets his information from?
 
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The customs fees/taxes will be based on the declared value and will not be based on a valuation by an assessor. I don't know where @ilayd gets his information from?
The first thing the agent does is an estimate to see if the product is more expensive than the declared value. This agent also can use google like us. If he wants he can estimate the product as much as he likes or to be more accurate he can use the most expensive price he finds online. He is also obliged to ask the buyer for a receipt, but if the receipt is far lower than his estimation then he can deny it. Everybody know that you can ask for two paypal payments. This is a well known trick to the agents. Of course I am talking for my country (Greece) that the customs taxes are really strict due to crisis.
It has happened to me. I had to send both the payment receipt and the website of the lower price to prove that I bought the product lower than he estimated, and this took weeks exchanging emails mostly, because they don't really reply to phone calls.
 
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The point is to buy it like in USA(400-500$). 650€ is still expensive for what it is

The market disagrees with you.

But they are still possible to find - if you find one similar to the one I sold at $400-500, I'll be the first to congratulate you 😀


My friend the fees depend on the final sale value that a customs employee will wake up one day and will estimate how much it costs. They may value the watch as 800€ since they will see this price in Europe and then you need a lot of email and proof exchange to pay as you say. They may never accept the PayPal receipt. It depends on the employee.

Where in the EU are you located? I know of no custom's authority in any country here that operates in that fashion, except when we're talking commodities like automobiles which are taxed according to specific regulations in the law.
 
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The market disagrees with you.

But they are still possible to find - if you find one similar to the one I sold at $400-500, I'll be the first to congratulate you 😀




Where in the EU are you located? I know of no custom's authority in any country here that operates in that fashion, except when we're talking commodities like automobiles which are taxed according to specific regulations in the law.

I am in Greece. Everything bought above 22 (!) euros (imported from outside EU) in Greece is taxed at 24%, and a fixed amount for processing and payment of the agent, and some other taxes in percent which I don't really understand. A good example is an electronic devise I bought form china which costed 26 euros, they charged me 33 euros extra, so the 24% is not always 24%. You will never know how much they will charge you. In addition this was charged by the normal Greek public post office, so I can not even imagine how a private courier like Fedex would charge!!! At first they did not accept my paypal receipt , and they asked for a link of this device that the amount of 26 euros would be shown. It took me 2 months to get the product, and still I got it more than double price. Maybe I was unlucky, maybe the agent was wrong... However after this incident I stopped buying watches and other products outside EU.

As far as the "c case" constellation, I have found recently lots of examples in Japan and in USA selling at 400-500 dollars.
 
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Of course there is always the possibility to get a product at no charge at all!! I bought a zodiac watch for example at 500 dollars from USA, and it came to me TAX FREE. So in my opinion it's really a case of an employee waking up in a bad mood, or not.
 
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That sounds like a ridiculous system! I am not too happy about our custom's office, but it pales in comparison to yours...
 
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I am in Greece. Everything bought above 22 (!) euros (imported from outside EU) in Greece is taxed at 24%, and a fixed amount for processing and payment of the agent, and some other taxes in percent which I don't really understand. A good example is an electronic devise I bought form china which costed 26 euros, they charged me 33 euros extra, so the 24% is not always 24%. You will never know how much they will charge you. In addition this was charged by the normal Greek public post office, so I can not even imagine how a private courier like Fedex would charge!!! At first they did not accept my paypal receipt , and they asked for a link of this device that the amount of 26 euros would be shown. It took me 2 months to get the product, and still I got it more than double price. Maybe I was unlucky, maybe the agent was wrong... However after this incident I stopped buying watches and other products outside EU.

As far as the "c case" constellation, I have found recently lots of examples in Japan and in USA selling at 400-500 dollars.

Yep.. similar in Hungary, even worse, the VAT is 27 % here.