Community Stories

Vintage 1968? Seamaster 120 weird bezel wrong?

D
Posts
10
Likes
1
Hello, i hoping the knowledgable members here can shed some light on Seamaster 120 i bought recently on ebay. Listing said completely original and was in Canada so i bought after it arrived started looking at it more carefully.
Questions are. 1. has anyone seen this bezel before or is it completely wrong?
2. I know band is not right now? It doesnt have the usual 4 digit number?
The end pcs stamped 527#
Back stamped inside 166027
Caliber 565 24jewel.
So now i wondering about the dial being original or not? Its flat paint gloss, but couldnt see that in original photo! Including listing description. Appreciate any insight you can give about bezel, dial, service hands or original etc. Case does seem right has cutouts. Cheers
 
20220216_095707.jpg 20220215_163720.jpg 20220215_131234.jpg Capture+_2022-02-16-11-25-51.png Capture+_2022-02-16-11-25-58.png
Davidt
Posts
12,035
Likes
20,903
Bracelet looks like an omega just incorrect for this watch.

Bezel certainly incorrect.
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
Davidt Davidt
Bracelet looks like an omega just incorrect for this watch.

Bezel certainly incorrect.
Ok thanks very strange as well cant even find that bezel. Wonder if off different brand .thanks for reply much appreciated
 
JwRosenthal
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,937
As David said, bracelet is incorrect, but is Omega- the 527 endlinks were for a Constellation, but may be similar case shape- would need to see the fit against the case better. it could be possible it was paired to the watch early on as it is a 19mm bracelet of the same period.

Bezel is from another watch entirely and not Omega- plus it’s a countdown bezel which I find unusual.
Dial looks legit in the crappy pics but looks filthy. Crown also looks incorrect, probably Omega, but not for this watch (may be service crown).
Making this watch whole again with correct bezel won’t happen, they are non-existent. Crowns can be had but at a cost.
Unless you are ok with the current bezel that’s on it, return it now, you will not find the correct bezel (I cannot stress that enough, we get people who actually think they will and to date I have only ever seen 1 OEM bezel for sale on its own).
Plus it will also need a service which can run you upward of $3-600 depending on parts.
 
JwRosenthal
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,937
And a note- the seller knows the bezel isn’t original, he specifically left the description of originality for that out of the listing entirely- so technically, he didn’t mislead in the description- just omitted that detail.
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
JwRosenthal JwRosenthal
As David said, bracelet is incorrect, but is Omega- the 527 endlinks were for a Constellation, but may be similar case shape- would need to see the fit against the case better. it could be possible it was paired to the watch early on as it is a 19mm bracelet of the same period.

Bezel is from another watch entirely and not Omega- plus it’s a countdown bezel which I find unusual.
Dial looks legit in the crappy pics but looks filthy. Crown also looks incorrect, probably Omega, but not for this watch (may be service crown).
Making this watch whole again with correct bezel won’t happen, they are non-existent. Crowns can be had but at a cost.
Unless you are ok with the current bezel that’s on it, return it now, you will not find the correct bezel (I cannot stress that enough, we get people who actually think they will and to date I have only ever seen 1 OEM bezel for sale on its own).
Plus it will also need a service which can run you upward of $3-600 depending on parts.
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
Thanks so much for confirmation should have done a tone more research before bit seller seemed pretty adimate that it was 100% original. I had sean the bracelet style before on other Omega so assumed correct. Stupid on my part i know. Looked everywhere cant even figure out what make that bezel is off.
Yes my not great but bezel paint very dull and flat and yes extremely dirty and dusty under the crystal. Service didnt bother me as probably 120.00 for me to have done. But bezel was main concern as yes i realize parts very tough to find especially bezels. Still looking for one for a bulova surfboard lol may never find it.
Live and learn hopefully the return process works filed it earlier. As not as described in description wrong bezel and band not original. Will see
Appreciate you taking time to reply.
Cheers
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
JwRosenthal JwRosenthal
And a note- the seller knows the bezel isn’t original, he specifically left the description of originality for that out of the listing entirely- so technically, he didn’t mislead in the description- just omitted that detail.
Yes i caught that but he did put 100% original so technically that would unclude bezel, band and crown i would think. Splitting hairs maybe but wording probably should have said 75% original.
Heres hoping. A little slippery on his part, but thanks for pointing that out as well.
 
JwRosenthal
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,937
Sorry to break bad news but you knew it already, you just needed confirmation. As for the Bulova Surfboard, a real one just sold last week on eBay- they do pop up. The reissue is really stunning actually, even the quartz model. I was shocked by the build quality and attention to detail

8AC1D691-7978-4D25-9A35-AD3D23ABC6C9.jpeg

A stepped dial with applied indices!
98D3630A-E389-4C52-AD1D-9A7CE09BC2A4.jpeg D934E90A-77F9-44AE-BAD5-37AE1E88E9D9.jpeg
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
JwRosenthal JwRosenthal
Sorry to break bad news but you knew it already, you just needed confirmation. As for the Bulova Surfboard, a real one just sold last week on eBay- they do pop up. The reissue is really stunning actually, even the quartz model. I was shocked by the build quality and attention to detail

8AC1D691-7978-4D25-9A35-AD3D23ABC6C9.jpeg

A stepped dial with applied indices!
98D3630A-E389-4C52-AD1D-9A7CE09BC2A4.jpeg D934E90A-77F9-44AE-BAD5-37AE1E88E9D9.jpeg
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
Hi a real surfboard bezel or whole watch. Sucks if was bezel looked every week for 2 months except last week lol mine is marked 71 seem to be rarer then the 1970 version. Most you see are 1970. Its weird its minty other then bezel almost like bezel broke when new? Very little wear or usage marks period.
 
20211205_101523.jpg 20211205_101650.jpg
JwRosenthal
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,937
D DBChurchboy
Hi a real surfboard bezel or whole watch. Sucks if was bezel looked every week for 2 months except last week lol mine is marked 71 seem to be rarer then the 1970 version. Most you see are 1970. Its weird its minty other then bezel almost like bezel broke when new? Very little wear or usage marks period.
Was a whole watch, didn’t go cheaply either- but it was nice. Yours looks nice even without the correct bezel- better than naked.
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
JwRosenthal JwRosenthal
Was a whole watch, didn’t go cheaply either- but it was nice. Yours looks nice even without the correct bezel- better than naked.
Thanks yes love the surfboard luckily bought it cheap somehow everyone missed it.
One mor dumb question you seem to know your way around things. Sell has replied and wants my email to send shipping label. Anything i need to be careful of so he doesnt end up with my money and the watch. Other then tracking info? Never returned anything and just started using ebay again several months ago. After this i want bug you i promise.
Daren
 
JwRosenthal
Posts
16,307
Likes
44,937
If this was through ebay, do it all through ebay. Tell him you will go through the eBay return process which you have to initiate. Then he will confirm it and you will be issued at return label. Do not go outside ebay or you lose your protection.
 
D
Posts
10
Likes
1
JwRosenthal JwRosenthal
If this was through ebay, do it all through ebay. Tell him you will go through the eBay return process which you have to initiate. Then he will confirm it and you will be issued at return label. Do not go outside ebay or you lose your protection.
Ok great thats what i thought. Thanks for helping me dodge a bullet was going to keep 120 and sell this big lug Omega i just so happen to pick up sunday with stroke of luck. May be keeper for now. Thanks again
 
20220216_092251.jpg 20220216_092012.jpg 20220216_091536.jpg
Sign up or log in to reply...

Similar threads

Kupepe

1968 Seamaster Cosmic - service scrubbed away all details at back plate

Kupepe Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
Davidt
Davidt
Posts
13
Views
1K
O

New here. Looking for your thoughts / assistance please. Seeking 1968 Seamaster.

oscargamer Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
Passover
Passover
Posts
25
Views
4K