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Vincero Collective - should I try to stop a Rogue choice?

  1. Omegafanman Mar 5, 2023

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    Over a few (too many) beers last night somone who is not a watch guy and currently does not have a watch told me they really liked the Vincero Collective Rogue and were thinking of buying it. I guess their buget would be around £300.

    I think anyone getting into watches is a cool thing, but should I steer them to something else .... and if so what.
    I have a few ideas but wonder what team OF thinks?

    They guy is a massive F1 fan so I guess something modern / I can see why he like the VC which is only £300 . He is not fussy for a manual movement which is good given the price point. He is not a metal bracelet fan.
    Any feedback appreciated. Part of me is thinking Seiko as it is a Seiko movement anyway?
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  2. Spruce Sunburst dial fan Mar 5, 2023

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    These meca-quartz watches are an interesting development and are competitively priced.

    The only one I have is a Dan Henry and I’m more than happy with it. The advantage of my DH (imho) over the Vincero you’ve posted is that the absence of a date feature means that I can set it and forget it until the battery needs replacing. No end of month advancing - just good to go whenever.

    (They’re sold with bracelets and straps).

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  3. Omegafanman Mar 5, 2023

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  4. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 5, 2023

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    You can get a real entry level omega Geneve for similar money. Might not be to his taste but the Dan Henry posted above is definitely a step up too.
     
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  5. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Mar 5, 2023

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    Let him get into the door to a handed watch first.

    Steer him to Seiko but let him choose.

    Have bamboozled someone out of a 3 handled watch into a digital G-Shock.
    (Gave them too many choices and they got over comparing and just bought a G-Shock)
     
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  6. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Mar 5, 2023

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    My son has a couple of Sternglass. One quartz and one mechanical. The quality is impressive. I believe they just came out with this Chronograph. Same price point. Very good customer service. B0E225BA-D929-4423-9EBB-9971AA9D22F1.jpeg
     
  7. Donn Chambers Mar 5, 2023

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    Personally, I’d steer him toward one of the new Seiko Speedtimers. Has an updated solar-powered chronograph movement.
     
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  8. Omegafanman Mar 5, 2023

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    This one looks a possible thanks:thumbsup:

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  9. Olhenry56 Mar 5, 2023

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    Those get my vote so far. They're smaller than the one your friend chose, but that's a big plus for me. You got me looking at them now...
     
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  10. Omegafanman Mar 5, 2023

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  11. tapaptpat Mar 5, 2023

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    @Omegafanman
    Hmm tricky not got alot to go so:
    So my brief is British Mil chrono. - Failed as unrealistic unless you are able to buy at source and even then budget is restrictive.

    Adjusting parameters a Civvie version are possible..on ebay - You are looking for V657-X063, V657-X045, PJN305X1, PM3129X1
    or later remakes like
    https://www.rubiconwatches.com/pulsar-gents-military-watch-pm3129x1-formally-pjn305x1-p422
    https://www.rubiconwatches.com/pulsar-gents-military-watch-pm3175x1-formally-pjn299x1-p430
    Well under budget was a success but availability and condition is as you find it. YMMV

    Adjusting some more available chrono's:

    Sugess reissue
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08RYFJ...f92e03f941264a3e4d&tag=watchesyoucanafford-20

    Bauhaus crossed with scandi design
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07YFV3...4568002164f78d8bdd&tag=watchesyoucanafford-20

    Damn i mean Dan DAAN
    https://danhenrywatches.com/collections/vintage-watches/products/1972-maverick-chronograph

    There are too many but I hope this helps
    Pat
     
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  12. tapaptpat Mar 5, 2023

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    Plus one on the Larry S suggestion on a clean looking Zenith .. i mean Sternglass
    and to Standy for handeling a watch to help with choosing
     
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  13. RevZMan123 Mar 5, 2023

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    I would get a dan Henry or sugess before a vincero. They are a known shady Kickstarter brand.
     
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  14. tapaptpat Mar 5, 2023

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    Edited Mar 5, 2023
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  15. Omegafanman Mar 6, 2023

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    Thanks for helping Pat. The Pulsars are a nice honest option and the brand has a good military pedigree. The guy is not a bracelet fan but aside from F1 he loves motorcycles and has had the need for speed in his youth so the Dan Henry and Ducati could be a hit.
    From your F1 link (Fratello) I think this could also be an option now…

    https://www.fratellowatches.com/han...casio-edifice-eqb-1000at-scuderia-alphatauri/
     
  16. Omegafanman Mar 6, 2023

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    It looks like it will be a Dan Henry …. And a Pulsar. Thanks all for the replies.
    Now he is thinking about a budget dress watch……. I see him on a slippery slope :0)
     
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  17. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Mar 6, 2023

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    Timex Marlin, Timex Galli can’t go wrong.
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  18. Togri v. 2.0 Wow! Custom title... cool Mar 6, 2023

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    I have seen Vincero’s utter bullshit advertizing on some social media platforms.
     
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  19. tapaptpat Mar 6, 2023

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    @Larry S your son has seriously great taste in his collection...:whistling:

    I'm having to pull out the dazzling colours to make up for the Timex 4xAces

    Really wish we could go vintage for you @Omegafanman then I could speak with some experience. Rather than point at things I think are nice.

    So we go again sub £300 Dress

    Initially i found the Limited edition Silver leaf lacquer sadly the are way out of budget and JP market only adding to import cost

    However the introduction of a new mail line collection called Citizen Tsuyosa as a really strong/clean look
    review here 2022
    https://monochrome-watches.com/intr...-with-integrated-bracelet-nj0150-specs-price/
    2023 here
    https://monochrome-watches.com/2023...gradient-blue-teal-dial-gold-red-specs-price/


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    Then there is the Rival Seiko Presage line
    Here is a huge collection
    https://www.seikowatches.com/uk-en/products/presage/basic
    Below are some of my choices, Note these are all quite thick watch due to automatic movement. Not as a cuff stealth watch.

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    There are so many good value choices - Casio with tiffany dial and Orient Bambino
    to just out of range Mondaine
    to well double budget Nomos.
    Not to mention No longer available Brew etc etc.

    Let someone else have a go

    Cheers Pat
     
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  20. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Mar 6, 2023

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    @tapaptpat … Those are my Timex. My kid has this California Marlin though …. C84CC9EE-E1B4-4569-82B2-2358073E1F99.jpeg