Verifying authenticity or model of potential new watch.

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How accurate is it. What is the service history need to be known.

I would, but first see the mouvement to really be sure. I like this Ref to!

So here is the picture of the movement.
It is unsettling to me how the quality of the picture is far worse than that of the watch. Seems suspicious.

But what do you guys think?

 
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the quality of image is just BAD. Did the seller take it with a Nokia N95??? I don't really know this movement, but there is no reference number on the rotor plate, not sure if it's normal for this movement.
 
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the quality of image is just BAD. Did the seller take it with a Nokia N95??? I don't really know this movement, but there is no reference number on the rotor plate, not sure if it's normal for this movement.

Also it could just be me but doesnt that bezel look like the one for a new PO not the old sharp pointy one of the 2210 ref. ?
 
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Also it could just be me but doesnt that bezel look like the one for a new PO not the old sharp pointy one of the 2210 ref. ?
That’s clearly a 1st gen PO bezel from a 3313 or 2500 45.5. It looks nothing like the 2nd or 3rd generation bezels.
 
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Oh okay. It looked like the little squared notches of the new PO from the back.
 
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That’s clearly a 1st gen PO bezel from a 3313 or 2500 45.5. It looks nothing like the 2nd or 3rd generation bezels.
What do you think of the movement though? Looks ok?
worth $3000? I would like to see if I can get it for 2600$ What do you guys think?
 
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What do you think of the movement though? Looks ok?
worth $3000? I would like to see if I can get it for 2600$ What do you guys think?
Pictures to low detail to make a comment. Appears to be a 3313. And the caseback raises some questions... or at least points to a very early one.

Well a later version is 3200 right now. And it needs a $500 plus service so... I can’t answer that for you.
 
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Just my opinion, but in uneasy event like this, I would rather pass and wait for the next chance. Yes it might be a missed steal, but it could also be a dodged trap.
 
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Just my opinion, but in uneasy event like this, I would rather pass and wait for the next chance. Yes it might be a missed steal, but it could also be a dodged trap.

Indeed. In my opinion its always best to dodge harm than risk for reward. I may just sit on this a moment. Im still in contact with the seller and have asked for the year of manufacture and if its been serviced. So we’ll see. Ill keep you guys posted and see what tips you guys have.

Thank you so much for your input. Its been very very helpful.
 
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Indeed. In my opinion its always best to dodge harm than risk for reward. I may just sit on this a moment. Im still in contact with the seller and have asked for the year of manufacture and if its been serviced. So we’ll see. Ill keep you guys posted and see what tips you guys have.

Thank you so much for your input. Its been very very helpful.
Glad to help! Hope you could get the watch you want real soon haha!
 
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Hey, I just came across a sales post on WUS of a PO of the exact same reference. It's a bit more expensive but looks much more reliable. You can find it by searching for the reference probably.
 
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I don't really know this movement, but there is no reference number on the rotor plate, not sure if it's normal for this movement.

Yes, completely normal for this movement. The caliber is not on the rotor.

Indeed. In my opinion its always best to dodge harm than risk for reward. I may just sit on this a moment. Im still in contact with the seller and have asked for the year of manufacture and if its been serviced. So we’ll see. Ill keep you guys posted and see what tips you guys have.

Thank you so much for your input. Its been very very helpful.

The case back should have engravings - both versions of the case used on this model had engravings on the case back, so if they are not there, they have been removed. BTW this is the first version of the case.

Please ask the seller to send you the full serial number, and post it here - I'll double check it to be sure this isn't some kind of franken. The fact that he sent you such good photos of the watch, but then a crappy photo of the movement, makes me feel uneasy.
 
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Yes, completely normal for this movement. The caliber is not on the rotor.



The case back should have engravings - both versions of the case used on this model had engravings on the case back, so if they are not there, they have been removed. BTW this is the first version of the case.

Please ask the seller to send you the full serial number, and post it here - I'll double check it to be sure this isn't some kind of franken. The fact that he sent you such good photos of the watch, but then a crappy photo of the movement, makes me feel uneasy.

Yes thats what has me shaken as well. How can you go from such good quality to such poor quality on something as important.

I have asked for the date of manufacture and serial, lets see what he says.

Thank you all
 
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So I was contacted by the salesman via phone. They are not sure how or why the case back is devoid of the engravings. However, due to this I was offered a price of $2400 with a 30 day money back guarantee with box and papers from Omega and the watch was recently serviced by their watchmakers. They assured me the whole watch is authentic and not a franken-watch and that even the case back is an authentic Omega piece. I did not ask for any further questions concerning the serial number and was not given the serial number. They were kind and enthusiastic about this piece. This place has a 5 star rating and they are certain that I will find nothing wrong with the watch. I think its important to note that I didn't even ask for a lower price it was simply offered to me as i assume they noticed my concern over the piece particularly the case back.

Im not sure how to approach this now so what would you do? and What do you guys think?
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They have a 5 star rating and you won’t find anything wrong with the watch.......


There is no engraving ( that’s 🤬ing wrong )




Knowing someone’s opened it with needle nose pliers.
I would have stopped looking 15 minutes ago. 😉
Youre probably right. Who knows what shenanigans they did to the movement if they indeed were able to get it opened. Im gonna pass on this piece.

Thank you all for youre input!


Thought the horse was dead 28 hours ago.
 
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Thought the horse was dead 28 hours ago.

Well they called me after my last email after Archer gave me his input. I agree with what you said but I dont want any decision to be made with haste even the decision to pass it up. So im just seeing what any further advice people have with this new information from today. And your advice is what has kept me from pulling the trigger.

Also I told him about the damage on the notches and he said that in person there doesnt seem to he any damage or indication that pliers were used as if that were the case the damage on the notches would be more substantial.

They basically said it was near mint apart from the caseback.
 
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So im just seeing what any further advice people have with this new information from today.

The same advice from before:

"The case back should have engravings - both versions of the case used on this model had engravings on the case back, so if they are not there, they have been removed. BTW this is the first version of the case.

Please ask the seller to send you the full serial number, and post it here - I'll double check it to be sure this isn't some kind of franken. The fact that he sent you such good photos of the watch, but then a crappy photo of the movement, makes me feel uneasy."

Look we are willing to help you, but if you want anything other than what's been said, you need to follow up with them and get the serial number. Otherwise, you need to "shit or get off the pot" as my mother would say...
 
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Well they called me after my last email after Archer gave me his input. I agree with what you said but I dont want any decision to be made with haste even the decision to pass it up. So im just seeing what any further advice people have with this new information from today. And your advice is what has kept me from pulling the trigger.

Also I told him about the damage on the notches and he said that in person there doesnt seem to he any damage or indication that pliers were used as if that were the case the damage on the notches would be more substantial.

They basically said it was near mint apart from the caseback.






I’m done here, tried to help. But seems your intent on listening to a shady salesman that’s trying to flog you a watch that is just not right.

See you in your next thread.

“ Bought the watch and now it’s stopped “
 
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The same advice from before:

"The case back should have engravings - both versions of the case used on this model had engravings on the case back, so if they are not there, they have been removed. BTW this is the first version of the case.

Please ask the seller to send you the full serial number, and post it here - I'll double check it to be sure this isn't some kind of franken. The fact that he sent you such good photos of the watch, but then a crappy photo of the movement, makes me feel uneasy."

Look we are willing to help you, but if you want anything other than what's been said, you need to follow up with them and get the serial number. Otherwise, you need to "shit or get off the pot" as my mother would say...

Alright will do. Thank you for the help Im gonna get that number and post it.
 
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I’m done here, tried to help. But seems your intent on listening to a shady salesman that’s trying to flog you a watch that is just not right.

See you in your next thread.

“ Bought the watch and now it’s stopped “

No need to get impatient. I havent purchased it nor am I leaning that way. Im here for the advice and so far Ive taken it all. You gave me yours which was skip it and pass the offer but others have given me the advice to explore the mechanism and the get the serial number.
I apologize that I havent taken your advice to the T and ended the thread 28 hours ago but there is no need to get impatient nor accuse me of being “intent on listening to a shady salesman”

Im just posting the info as it comes and doing what others have advised as well.

Thank you for your input and I hope if we meet on another thread its not about a mistake I made or a faulty watch in mine or your collection.