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Verifying authenticity of omega speedmaster ref 3221.30

  1. drojanaletorvic Jul 14, 2022

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    Hello

    i bought this watch from Chrono24 (see attached pics) & went to the local swatch service center. I was told that while the watch is authentic, the case back does not correspond match with the watch, in other words, this is not the correct serial number.

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    Also, I couldn’t find this exact model anywhere else. Ref
    3221.30 is different on omega’s official website (the arrow moon) See below.
    https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-...-day-date-chronograph-40-mm-day-date-32213000

    Can anyone please advise if the model I bought is a fake one?
     
  2. Kwijibo Jul 15, 2022

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    Hello,

    the correct ref is 3523.30.00 or 3521.30.00 according to the size. 39 and 38mm. Does the movement number matches?
     
  3. drojanaletorvic Jul 15, 2022

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    Yes! Movement is 1151. Do I need to worry about the caseback serial number?
     
  4. Kwijibo Jul 15, 2022

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    I don't mean the movement type but its serial number. I there a number on one of the lugs?
     
  5. drojanaletorvic Jul 15, 2022

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    This is is the only closeup pic I have (from the vendor). Is this what you’re asking for ? Per swatch service center, older movements like these are not serialized.
     
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  6. Kwijibo Jul 15, 2022

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    There should be a serial number on the movement. Somewhere on the plate that matches the SN of the case (on the lug or in your case 58220258) the 58xxxxxxx SN coresponds to the year of production. I think 58 is circa 2002/2003
     
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  7. drojanaletorvic Jul 15, 2022

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    Per swatch service Center order omega model movements are not serialized so there’s no way of knowing if the caseback and movement match with each other.
     
  8. Kwijibo Jul 15, 2022

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    yes your'e right. I Forgot about that. all the 1151 have no serial numbers. The ref you gave us (3221.30) corresponds to the 3606 movment.
     
  9. drojanaletorvic Jul 15, 2022

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    should I be worry?
     
  10. Kwijibo Jul 15, 2022

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    I think this is legit. Do you know on what basis they said the caseback was ot original?
     
  11. padders Oooo subtitles! Jul 15, 2022

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    Yes but there is a way for a service centre or someone with Omega extranet access to see if that serial corresponds to that model. If they are saying it doesn't then you have a problem. Maybe our very own friendly watchmaker with such access @Archer could comment on what model serial 58220256 is returned as by the extranet.

    Note Kwijibo made a typo with the serial earlier.
     
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  12. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 15, 2022

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    Serial number: 58220256
    Article ref: 35135000
     
  13. drojanaletorvic Jul 15, 2022

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    The vendor denied that caseback didn’t belong to the watch. Honestly I don’t think he knew what he was selling. I mean he gave wrong reference number

    that being said, should I be concerned?
     
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  14. Kwijibo Jul 15, 2022

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    yup so it's an only date caseback with black dial.
     
  15. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 15, 2022

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    This is what the serial number states this watch should be:

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  16. drojanaletorvic Jul 15, 2022

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    Ok thanks. It’s possible that the caseback was swapped when servicing the watch by mistake. But in any case, do think it’s authentic watch or should I just get a refund?
     
  17. Kwijibo Jul 15, 2022

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  18. drojanaletorvic Jul 15, 2022

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  19. Vintage Lemania Jul 16, 2022

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    I see nothing indicating the watch is a fake, but the incorrect caseback serial # would definitely bug me.
     
  20. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 16, 2022

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    Is it all Omega? Can’t say for sure without opening it, but the fact that it has the wrong case back at the very least makes it a franken in my view. If you ever want to sell this on, you may have problems, and you may also have issues with Omega servicing it...they may want to make it original again.

    You seem determined to keep it, but personally I wouldn’t. It’s not as advertised, so the cleanest thing is to send it back.