Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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I’ve said this before: for some reason some traders seem to think the value of UG chrono’s tripled overnight
 
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I’ve said this before: for some reason some traders seem to think the value of UG chrono’s tripled overnight
Hiding the service moon as well ….
 
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Hiding the service moon as well ….
That's an original disc. You can tell because the base color of the stars is gold and they are spikey. Service moon disc base color is silver and the stars are round. As per below...

 
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Hiding the service moon as well ….
I’ll make it easier for you guys. The one they’re selling was mine and is in immaculate, original condition. The analog shift photography leaves more than a little to be desired, unfortunately. My old photo of the exact watch is below. I have no say or stake in AnalogShift’s asking price (I sold it outright last year). But it’s pretty clearly in line with some other tasty examples other well-known dealers have been asking in recent months for top examples …

Also, the UG Pocket Compax they’re selling does have crisp serial and reference numbers visible inside the case back, if anyone is curious about that one as well. @Mark020

 
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Great points, @MarktheTime and thanks for chiming in with the background. The market value is what someone will pay (even if some of us would rather pay a little less).

It is a beautiful piece and hopefully finds another good home soon.
 
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That's an original disc. You can tell because the base color of the stars is gold and they are spikey. Service moon disc base color is silver and the stars are round. As per below...


Nice. Never noticed. We out to add this to the Tri Compax Dial thread.
 
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Found this one on Chrono24 today, with pictures below. As an exercise in education, here are my thoughts:

  • Case looks sharp from the angles shown, with bevels well defined. The distinction between the brushed and polished section seems almost too sharp -- maybe refinished well? (I can't make out the stamping on the side of 9 o'clock, but it's not polished away)
  • Pushers and crown are shaped well, matching the case condition
  • Service moon
  • The 3's, 6's, and 9's look shaped right, loopy where they should be
  • The 4's aren't as flat on top as they are on dials I used for reference
  • Hands look correct
  • "Tri-Compax" text is smaller and higher than on reference dials
  • The circle and text around the moon disc looks a bit low, crowding the moon and "Universal" text.

If I chalk up the last couple points to production variances, it looks original to me with the exception of the service moon. What did I miss?

 
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Service dial
Days in the date wheel are obviously a service dial. Look at the TriCompax variance's and evolution thread
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I can't recall seeing an original caseback with circular striations instead of vertical. I would expect it to look like this:

 
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No offense, but saying that a piece like this has issues with the case and dial is a little concerning.

Beautiful piece.
 
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Found this one on Chrono24 today, with pictures below. As an exercise in education, here are my thoughts:

  • Case looks sharp from the angles shown, with bevels well defined. The distinction between the brushed and polished section seems almost too sharp -- maybe refinished well? (I can't make out the stamping on the side of 9 o'clock, but it's not polished away)
  • Pushers and crown are shaped well, matching the case condition
  • Service moon
  • The 3's, 6's, and 9's look shaped right, loopy where they should be
  • The 4's aren't as flat on top as they are on dials I used for reference
  • Hands look correct
  • "Tri-Compax" text is smaller and higher than on reference dials
  • The circle and text around the moon disc looks a bit low, crowding the moon and "Universal" text.

If I chalk up the last couple points to production variances, it looks original to me with the exception of the service moon. What did I miss?

Service Dial (early 60s dial, service moon, month,day), hands are mid 50s which means that serial number points to an era it does not belong to. It is a pretty sight with lots of glee, but gee, $10.5K ? If you like it, your call. l would rather go for an older original 22502 or 22259 (steel) or gold cased tri which would be very collectible and probably be around that figure or later clapton or evil clapton for that amount of dosh.
 
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Would be nice to know the case serial to properly date the watch, but the seller says 1950. Offhand I don't see anything wrong with it myself. (I'm not aware that we have established a known two-tone, applied metal indice, service dial?). Moonphase can be correct from 50 as well? Looks like it sold quickly.
 
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Thank you for the insight from the experts here. I wasn't looking to buy this one; just testing my eye for spotting what's right and what's wrong. It didn't dawn on me that this might be a service dial -- I was looking so closely at the trees that I missed the forest. Back to study Sr. Sala's book and the UG dial threads some more...
 
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It is not a service dial.
Don't think that the "UG dials" thread has no mistakes. The matter is very complex.
 
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Would be nice to know the case serial to properly date the watch, but the seller says 1950. Offhand I don't see anything wrong with it myself. (I'm not aware that we have established a known two-tone, applied metal indice, service dial?). Moonphase can be correct from 50 as well? Looks like it sold quickly.
Agree and no, we’ve never discussed a two tone SD.