please post a few pics, not just links, which will expire and then this discussion will be useless for the future

 

Very good point, thanks. There are lots of images in the listing but these capture all the info needed I think.

 

Thank you Mazoue. Yes the ring combination is interesting and I can’t find any other 104503/4 example to compare with

 

Interesting climate proof: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extremel...318532?hash=item2f527bf604:g:TNYAAOSwIy1fssUXPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

Terrible pics, no inside the case pics, eye watering price for a 34mm three hander. Print looks odd.

 

Agreed but the dial looks nice

 

What do you reckon to the hands?

 

ÌMHO definitely not correct

 

Thanks, that was my view also.

 

No Ebay and no UG but still: Mido with UG movement! First time I've seen one:

https://www.timeplex.com/products/copy-of-universal-geneve-compax-222101-1-chronograph

 

steep price for the size

 

Does anyone else think the dial on this is taken from a gold capped polerouter? The date window and the print look goldish to me.
I've been wondering how common this is since gold capped ones usually go for far less than SS ones.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-GENEVE-POLEROUTER-DATE-Automatic-Vintage-Watch-1959s-Overhauled/274654048830?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=2750bc471a1c4afda42808266fb4edbd&pid=100675&rk=3&rkt=15&mehot=none&sd=133643460906&itm=274654048830&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&brand=Universal&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:4932ae87-5b58-11eb-a9ea-0e412eec1786|parentrq:215629281770a9cd213f62e1ffaa4d70|iid:1Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

If the dial were from a gold capped watch, I think it would have a gold coloured logo and not a steel/silver coloured one.

 

Cool case but as per the description "may be polished in the past".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ar...849143?hash=item42290229b7:g:870AAOSwRFxgCZwHPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

Well yeah, but assuming the applied logo can be replaced easily.
My question is, is there any difference in the dial print between gold and SS versions?

 

I have my doubts about the dial and hands on that one (and the price). This one looks a little better (but I'm still not sure about the dial):

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ricambi-...automatic-28-mm/363243615527?autorefresh=truePurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

What's pretty unique is that both the case and the caseback are numbered

 

I think all of this model of Colonial has that - mine certainly has. I've just checked in Sala to see if the Chronograph has that but it's inconclusive.

 

There are differences in dial text even within particular references.

The dial having been replaced with a dial from a gold capped watch and then the logo swapped seems pretty unlikely to me.

I think it's more likely that the date window has just tarnished over time. Here's another example with a similar looking window. I think it's the same reference only slightly later with a Cal 218-2.

 

Interesting. May be the only reference