Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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bgrisso

·Jan 8, 2021

W Weihao

Not sure if this has been posted already. Is this an honest watch?

https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/114593394892

please post a few pics, not just links, which will expire and then this discussion will be useless for the future

 

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Mazoue

·Jan 8, 2021

bgrisso

please post a few pics, not just links, which will expire and then this discussion will be useless for the future

Very good point, thanks. There are lots of images in the listing but these capture all the info needed I think.

 

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Weihao

·Jan 9, 2021

Mazoue

Don't let me put you off though. Some of my very best purchases have been slightly risky watches where it wasn't possible to find a direct comparator.

Having looked again, are the hour markers a very slightly different shape without the bevel that we might expect to see on a 204503 or 204605?

To my knowledge, that would make it the first solid gold reference with a ring of this type and actually very interesting.

Thank you Mazoue. Yes the ring combination is interesting and I can’t find any other 104503/4 example to compare with 🙁

 

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Mark020

·Jan 14, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Interesting climate proof: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extremel...318532?hash=item2f527bf604:g:TNYAAOSwIy1fssUX

 

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Larry S

·Jan 14, 2021·Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.

Terrible pics, no inside the case pics, eye watering price for a 34mm three hander. Print looks odd.

 

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Mark020

·Jan 14, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Agreed but the dial looks nice

 

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Carlton-Browne

·Jan 14, 2021

Mark020

Agreed but the dial looks nice

What do you reckon to the hands?

 

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Mark020

·Jan 14, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

ÌMHO definitely not correct

 

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Carlton-Browne

·Jan 14, 2021

Thanks, that was my view also.

 

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Mark020

·Jan 20, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

No Ebay and no UG but still: Mido with UG movement! First time I've seen one:

https://www.timeplex.com/products/copy-of-universal-geneve-compax-222101-1-chronograph

 

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Oku

·Jan 20, 2021

steep price for the size

 

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berrychlossom

·Jan 20, 2021

Does anyone else think the dial on this is taken from a gold capped polerouter? The date window and the print look goldish to me.
I've been wondering how common this is since gold capped ones usually go for far less than SS ones.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-GENEVE-POLEROUTER-DATE-Automatic-Vintage-Watch-1959s-Overhauled/274654048830?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=2750bc471a1c4afda42808266fb4edbd&pid=100675&rk=3&rkt=15&mehot=none&sd=133643460906&itm=274654048830&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&brand=Universal&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:4932ae87-5b58-11eb-a9ea-0e412eec1786|parentrq:215629281770a9cd213f62e1ffaa4d70|iid:1

 

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Mazoue

·Jan 20, 2021

If the dial were from a gold capped watch, I think it would have a gold coloured logo and not a steel/silver coloured one.

 

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klugt1990

·Jan 21, 2021

Cool case but as per the description "may be polished in the past".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ar...849143?hash=item42290229b7:g:870AAOSwRFxgCZwH

 

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berrychlossom

·Jan 21, 2021

Mazoue

If the dial were from a gold capped watch, I think it would have a gold coloured logo and not a steel/silver coloured one.

Well yeah, but assuming the applied logo can be replaced easily.
My question is, is there any difference in the dial print between gold and SS versions?

 

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Carlton-Browne

·Jan 22, 2021

klugt1990

Cool case but as per the description "may be polished in the past".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ar...849143?hash=item42290229b7:g:870AAOSwRFxgCZwH

I have my doubts about the dial and hands on that one (and the price). This one looks a little better (but I'm still not sure about the dial):

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ricambi-...automatic-28-mm/363243615527?autorefresh=true

 

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Mark020

·Jan 22, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

What's pretty unique is that both the case and the caseback are numbered

 

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Carlton-Browne

·Jan 22, 2021

I think all of this model of Colonial has that - mine certainly has. I've just checked in Sala to see if the Chronograph has that but it's inconclusive.

 

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Mazoue

·Jan 22, 2021

berrychlossom

Well yeah, but assuming the applied logo can be replaced easily.
My question is, is there any difference in the dial print between gold and SS versions?

There are differences in dial text even within particular references.

The dial having been replaced with a dial from a gold capped watch and then the logo swapped seems pretty unlikely to me.

I think it's more likely that the date window has just tarnished over time. Here's another example with a similar looking window. I think it's the same reference only slightly later with a Cal 218-2.

 

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Mark020

·Jan 22, 2021·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Carlton-Browne

I think all of this model of Colonial has that - mine certainly has. I've just checked in Sala to see if the Chronograph has that but it's inconclusive.

Interesting. May be the only reference