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  1. bgrisso

    bgrisso Jun 7, 2019

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  2. ELV web

    ELV web Jun 7, 2019

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    2nd relisting.
     
  3. asrnj77

    asrnj77 Jun 7, 2019

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    They are pretty vague on the description. Not sure if they’re purposefully vague. It doesn’t look like there is any lume on the markers but hard to tell in the pics. I wonder if the first buyer bought it and then did some research and backed out. Or maybe shill bidding led to the seller winning
     
  4. Shan

    Shan Jun 8, 2019

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    How’s this watch polerouter Ref 20357-1?
    The movement looks a little beat up.

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  5. ELV web

    ELV web Jun 8, 2019

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    5,650 usd. The lume is there. If it fully commensurate then I would think the buyer got a good deal.
     
  6. Larry S

    Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jun 9, 2019

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    Looks like there has been welding in the movement...Overall shape is pretty rough.
     
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  7. ELV web

    ELV web Jun 9, 2019

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    The case is indeed polished. The movement is a valjoux 72 so it is fixable if there is an issue. The dial looks fine, crown and hands all good. I think 5650 was a good price.
     
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  8. waXology

    waXology Jun 9, 2019

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  9. bgrisso

    bgrisso Jun 9, 2019

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  10. waXology

    waXology Jun 9, 2019

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    $3456 (28% BP)

    For me in London though I'd have to pay shipping (they always charge courier prices) + customs on that value. Probably well over $4000 for me sadly.
     
  11. CaptainWinsor

    CaptainWinsor Jun 9, 2019

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    28% BP is outrageous. The auction house charges these fees but don’t know jack about most things. Their so called experts are usually some person with a degree in art and that’s it.
     
  12. Dan S

    Dan S Jun 9, 2019

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    34mm as well.
     
  13. rustynuts

    rustynuts Jun 13, 2019

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  14. Mazoue

    Mazoue Jun 14, 2019

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  15. WhereMadnessLies

    WhereMadnessLies Jun 14, 2019

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    Expert placing of the hands there :whipped:.
     
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  16. WhereMadnessLies

    WhereMadnessLies Jun 16, 2019

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    I'm not too clued up on the 1950s UG compax watches. I quite like this one and it looks good to my untrained eye (apart from some slight damage to the dial above the "com" and maybe a replacement crown), what do you guys think?

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  17. ELV web

    ELV web Jun 16, 2019

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    Redial. But a pretty good one at it. IMHO, the margin in the subdial between the letter and the edge is the issue (despite the font style/cliche looking alright and the concentric circle still present). Also the multicolor outer tachy (coupling with a telemeter)is also another point that I am not comfortable with. Also the hour and minute hands are wrong.

    Also open 6/9and close 6/9, while it is possible to have a mix between the outer/main dial and the subdial, but for the subdial to have both style is also a give away.
     
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  18. timoss

    timoss Jun 16, 2019

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    What are the tells on this one? I also am not up to speed on UG compaxes but am curious...
     
  19. bgrisso

    bgrisso Jun 16, 2019

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    Round 3s generally not good on the subdials. Wrong minute counter hand and chrono sweep. Weird number inside caseback, what is that? Would be curious to see external caseback. Import code is X'd out on the movement?
     
  20. Woops

    Woops Jun 16, 2019

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    In addition to the nuanced analysis from my far more knowledgeable friends, the quickest easiest redial tell with UG is usually a rounded edge on the subdials. The original factory finish should be a razor sharp lip where the perimeter of the subdials meet the main dial whereas a great many repainted dials instead show a cambered perimeter to the edges of the subdials where a later paintjob has overlapped and dried.
     
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