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  1. Jonatan

    Jonatan Nov 9, 2016

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    I am not a big fan of single picture listings and I think more pictures are needed before committing.

    When you mention guilloche dial do you mean like this?
    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/universal-ge...311217?hash=item1ebb2d0ef1:g:WcQAAOSwbsBXi7ZM
     
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  2. universal fan

    universal fan Nov 9, 2016

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    I agree, I asked a few more pictures and the guy sent me something more, but just of the exterior. No mechanism, because, he said, he did not have the equipment to open it.
    Actually the guilloche dial I had in mind was this
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/18k-universal-geneve-monodatic-bumper-guilloche-dial.32590/
    Thanks for bringing this other one up. I did not see it, obviously my ebay search filters are not optimal...
    As I told you, I am no expert, but in this one there are a few things that puzzle me. Please tell me if I am wrong.
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    I see the absence of the "U" logo, the "universal" which looks not really fitting the rectangle (actually not even a rectangle more a trapezoid) in which it is written and the date, which since it is odd should be red (the monodatic has the roulette date, right)?
     
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  3. Mapearso

    Mapearso Nov 10, 2016

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  4. Jonatan

    Jonatan Nov 11, 2016

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    I am pretty sure this one is legit. The Universal font is good and although it may be off center a little, this doesn't strike me as a redial. From what I understand redialing waffle dials is a though job. Here we se that both the Geneve and the Monodatic are correct.

    I have seen a few other examples similar/identical to this model. I remember that the date was black but can't recal if it was an odd or even number.
     
  5. Jonatan

    Jonatan Nov 12, 2016

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  6. Mazoue

    Mazoue Nov 12, 2016

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    Is the bezel insert correct? Others I've seen with this case reference and dial have just had plain polished bezels.
    The crown may be a replacement as I suspect the original would have been signed. The seconds hand looks to be right shape but I've not seen a silver one before, others have been blued steel as per the sub-dial hands.
     
  7. Jonatan

    Jonatan Nov 12, 2016

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    I have a very limited knowledge of chronographes. Out of my price range and too big for my wrist. I just thought I would bring it to your attention in case someone might want it.

    It's always a pleasure to learn. Thanks for your comments.
     
  8. universal fan

    universal fan Nov 12, 2016

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    I still have a lot to study! Thanks for your comments!
     
  9. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 13, 2016

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    It is a 222100-2 dial and movement, re-cased in an 881101 case. I think it qualifies as a franken. Nice as a project but difficult to justify at that price. I would struggle to pay that much for something that may never be brought back to its original look ...

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  10. Jonatan

    Jonatan Nov 13, 2016

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  11. LaurentBxl

    LaurentBxl Nov 13, 2016

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    Even if you would accept the idea of a franken, seeing 2 tachymètres on the same watch is bothering me....
     
  12. Jonatan

    Jonatan Nov 13, 2016

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    I didn't even notice, but very true. And I guess that the one I linked to is not missing the bezel.
     
  13. Diabolik

    Diabolik Nov 13, 2016

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    Concept of a second tachy is elementary and easily explained. The second bezel is used to confirm the readings on first bezel.
    :whipped:
     
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  14. Jonatan

    Jonatan Nov 13, 2016

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  15. Carlton-Browne

    Carlton-Browne Nov 17, 2016

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  16. LaurentBxl

    LaurentBxl Nov 17, 2016

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    it looks "added" to me too...
     
  17. Mapearso

    Mapearso Nov 17, 2016

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  18. LaurentBxl

    LaurentBxl Nov 18, 2016

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    The yellow indexes look relumed no? They seem so perfectly yellow...
     
  19. LaurentBxl

    LaurentBxl Nov 18, 2016

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    https://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/391626403521

    I don't understand why you would want to do that to a dial that was probably just looked faded...
    Have you seen the V from vendredi in the day window? And the hands? ....
     
  20. Florent

    Florent Nov 18, 2016

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    This watch have differents hands for each subdial ::facepalm2::
     
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