Universal Geneve Tri Compax 481 "french cased" - who can help ?

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So the dial is a mid late 40s but since we have a French case is it plausible that a dealer has dials, parts and movements in stock and builds watches under UG license..? in which case a customer picks the dial hands and case/movement and off we go?

That possibility opens an entire new world...
 
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There are adds in Sala that kinda point to that.
 
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@jb1986 ... could you add "French Cased" to your title ... will make this thread easier to find down the road. Lovely watch. Enjoy in good health.
 
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UGs really are the ultimate for us watch treasure hunters....
 
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UG = Pokémon ... collect em all!
 
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BTW OP - analogshift have a similar horned lug in SS up for sale at the moment -no affiliation
 
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Ok, now I have a lot of ug's sold in france at the same era, they all have the ug logo, I understand abput the hallmark but why would ug not stamp the logo when it leaves the manufacture ? Do some members have similar examples to show ? Besides as far as I can see on the picture, the numbers seems to be engraved, not punched in... One of the '1' looks different from the others... Any feedback on these points ?
 
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Because it leaves the manufacture before it gets cased. The casemaker is a separate French company.
 
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Because it leaves the manufacture before it gets cased. The casemaker is a separate French company.
You have examples ? It would be a 'première' to me... 😎 How about the rest ?
 
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Maybe Zenith and the rest (from company to company), but I have never seen it for ug and there are the other issues...
 
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Been following this discussion with interest, very nice watch.
For what it’s worth I’ve never seen a French-cased Omega without the logo stamped in the caseback.
 
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So gold case with 1) official french hallmark for 18K on lugs, body and caseback, exactly as is required by law for french cases; 2) a French casemaker's mark; 3) technically complicated execution (join of lugs to case body specifically); plus 4) all of the apertures necessary for the Tri-Compax corrector perfectly executed, and it is some kind of one-off fake? Someone went to an awful lot of trouble....
 
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So gold case with 1) official french hallmark for 18K on lugs, body and caseback, exactly as is standard for french cases; 2) a French casemaker's mark; 3) technically complicated execution (join of lugs to case body specifically); plus 4) all of the apertures necessary for the Tri-Compax corrector perfectly executed, and it is some kind of one-off fake? Someone went to an awful lot of trouble....
No troubles at all, just a standard 'anonymous' gold case back and engravings total costs: 100 to 150 €... 😉 I am talking about the case back only, the rest seems genuine.
 
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No troubles at all, just a standard 'anonymous' gold case back and engravings total costs: 150 €... 😉

...and french government eagle-head stamp to put 18K hallmarks on case body and lugs. Slightly more expensive and less probable.
 
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...and french government eagle-head stamp to put 18K hallmarks on case body and lugs. Slightly more expensive.
Come on, you can buy solid gold complete working chronos from the 40' with all the official hallmarks for 350 € ! 😉 and then engrave only the back...
 
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Come on, you can buy solid gold complete working chronos from the 40' with all the official hallmarks for 350 € ! 😉

So now you are saying the whole case is fake? Or that it's easy to get fake French hallmarks? If the latter, I don't think it is, as hallmarks are meant as official government proof of precious metal content and I think the French govt would have addressed forgery. If the former, I will simply requote myself
So gold case with 1) official french hallmark for 18K on lugs, body and caseback, exactly as is required by law for french cases; 2) a French casemaker's mark; 3) technically complicated execution (join of lugs to case body specifically); plus 4) all of the apertures necessary for the Tri-Compax corrector perfectly executed, and it is some kind of one-off fake? Someone went to an awful lot of trouble....
 
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I'm late to this discussion, but there's another watch that has been for sale at the link below from a vintage dealer in France that specifically describes its tri-compax (with very unusual lugs, and a deep engraving...) as "french cased". Considered buying it, but decided against it - a bit too "unusual" for me to mess with, given my limited expertise about the hallmarks, lack of typical UG markings on the case, etc.
Have fun discussing!
https://www.vws.fr/gb/classical/793...-vers-1944.html?search_query=compax&results=5
 
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I'm late to this discussion, but there's another watch that has been for sale at the link below from a vintage dealer in France that specifically describes its tri-compax (with very unusual lugs, and a deep engraving...) as "french cased". Considered buying it, but decided against it - a bit too "unusual" for me to mess with, given my limited expertise about the hallmarks, lack of typical UG markings on the case, etc.
Have fun discussing!
https://www.vws.fr/gb/classical/793...-vers-1944.html?search_query=compax&results=5

Nice find. Maddening that he does not show the entire inside caseback, tho!

An incongruency with the OP's watch has not been discussed I think is that, if the dial is marked Swiss, and this is a watch of French manufacture, it should be also marked "Fab.Suisse" or some variant thereof, according to french import law. Similarly the movement, unless it was of French assembly.