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Universal Geneve FS, the "other” railway watch

  1. Rman Apr 3, 2017

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  2. Moahunter Apr 3, 2017

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    It sold for
    EUR 151.00
    Approximately NZD231.03
    Hardly the crime of the century.
     
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  3. Carlton-Browne May 3, 2017

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    I picked up this spare case very recently; the thing that drew me to it is the fact that it's missing a serial number, though the FS is there. It begs the question as to whether the FS mark was done by UG and the serial number after delivery - it came from a German Ebay seller so, although I will ask the question, I'm not expecting an answer based on an encyclopedic knowledge of Italian railway watches.

    Also the case reference is 864.106 rather than 864.107 in the OP.

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    The case is in better condition than most that I've seen on Ebay and the possibility exists that a movement was never fitted (though I'll admit this doesn't square happily with the sodding great scratches where somebody has opened the caseback). My intention is to get the case completely re-finished and swap it with the one on mine.

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  4. aap Jul 2, 2017

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    Just saw this online. Is this legit - different logo and not a sub-second?
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  5. Carlton-Browne Jul 2, 2017

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    Do you have a movement shot; the dial logo suggests that it is a Unisonic? The UG and the Perseo FS watches I've seen all have dial numerals stamped from behind so as to give something of a 3D effect; this makes me doubtful about yours as it presumably wasin the spec. The other thing to look at is the inside of the caseback for any model reference and you could also sample some of the FS serial numbers to see if this is at the end of a range (doesn't prove anything but one could imagine that if it were a tuning fork model it wouldn't belong in the same range as the mechanicals).
     
  6. aap Jul 2, 2017

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    No movement pic. I just saw it on subito and was curious about the dial difference.
     
  7. Rumar89 Jul 3, 2017

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    I'm actually on the Amalfi coast right now. Anybody have a suggestion on dealers/shops that might have one of these? It'd be a great souvenir.
     
  8. Rumar89 Jul 6, 2017

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    And the answer was Roberto at Orologeria Tempo in Palermo. My first UG.

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  9. Carlton-Browne Jul 6, 2017

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    Well done :thumbsup:. I hope you didn't pay too much.
     
  10. Rman Jul 6, 2017

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  11. Moahunter Sep 11, 2017

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  12. bgrisso Jan 27, 2018

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    Just picked up one these, I love it ! Thanks @Rman for the consult. I prefer the earlier faceted cases, even though they are smaller, wears quite large. I wouldnt normally wear 34mm but this one feels very good. Case is a little beat up, but sharp, dial is clean, runs great. Very nice watch and very reasonable. I don't know what the FS numbers on the back mean, but I like that mine is an earlier/lower number than most others I see.
     
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  13. nickw Jan 29, 2018

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    Great OP and thread.

    Can anyone share what the lug size on the 36mm cushion case is?
     
  14. bgrisso Jan 29, 2018

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    What do u mean, strap size? Or lug to lug? My smaller 34mm case takes a 19mm strap, but I don't know details on the larger 36mm c case...
     
  15. Rman Jan 29, 2018

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    Also 19mm
     
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  16. Paulomega Jan 29, 2018

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    Absolutely Gold Mine of information, priceless. Thank you so much for sharing. Fascinating read and illustrations.

    Thank you, oh WISE Ones :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  17. Florent Jan 31, 2018

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    Here is mine :)
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  18. ekel Apr 1, 2018

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    Great post! What's the thickness of (1) the case and (2) the case and crystal for both the first and second iterations?

     
  19. aap Apr 3, 2018

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    Here's mine; bought a few months ago:
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  20. ekel Apr 4, 2018

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    First iteration? What's the thickness?
     
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