Uiversal polerouter 1964 REF 204605

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Bonjour à tous, connaissant peu cette marque, je préfère avoir vos avis sur ce Polerouter de 1964 REF 204605 2365722, ces deux références sur le capot arrière avec une mouvement 69
Je me demande si je n’ai pas acheté une merguez !

les références sous le cache arrière correspondent chez Universal à un cadran qui n’est pas celui que j’ai sur cette montre et même chose pour la mécanique qui devrait être un 215 OU 218 , sachant qu’il est équipé d’un 69 pourtant il est indiqué que les mouvements 69 équipaient certaines polerouter date
Même chose pour le poussoir était-il gravé ?

j’aimerais avoir vos avis, cordialement

 
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Hello everyone, knowing little about this brand, I prefer to have your opinions on this 1964 Polerouter REF 204605 2365722, these two references on the rear hood with a 69 movement

I wonder if I didn't buy a merguez!

The references under the back cover correspond at Universal to a dial that is not the one I have on this watch and the same for the mechanics which should be a 215 OR 218, knowing that it is equipped with a 69 yet it is indicated that the 69 movements equipped some polerouter date

Same thing for the pusher was it engraved?

I would like to have your opinions, cordially
Since we are an English language forum, I’ve taken the liberty of running your original post through Google Translate. I think I understand what you are asking, although I’m not sure the meaning of “merguez”.

We will need a straight ahead picture of the dial to say anything about the dial. Original crowns and crystals should be signed with Universal’s “U” logo with a shield.

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
 
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ok I will make photos and translate into English ( the term merguez means reconstituted watch with other polerouter so not original)
inside the lid I have the universal logo , outside the lid I have the universal logo Geneva in the form of a globe with two numbers one under the other

 
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I think the reference on the case back is 204605/9 - is that correct? I think that would also be consistent with the serial number.
If so, I think this watch would have started life with a gold dial with a segment pattern as pictured below.
Image courtesy of The Polerouter Book

I would expect a Cal 218-2 in this reference. This Cal 69 doesn't look all original, as it appears to have an earlier microtor.

The crown is a later replacement.

 
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Hello and thank you for responding. Indeed, the reference indicated is 204605/9 and below 2365722 on the back of the lid, this is the question I ask myself, is it the right cover too? What would be the best solution: find a 218-2 movement and then integrate it into it so that this watch returns to the original. What do you think?
 
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I think that it would be almost impossible to return this watch back to original. If it runs well, it makes a nice wearing watch. It will never be a collector’s grade watch.

An easier route would be to find an all original watch for sale and purchase that. It will be cheaper in the long run.

gatorcpa
 
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ok je sais ce que j’avais en tête, et merci pour toutes ces informations
 
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Universal Geneva crown series 2 gold anti-dust diam 4.5 ht 2 filt 0.90 For my polerouter did I find the right crown?

 
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or this one talking about color Universal Geneva Crown 1st Origin Waterproof Steel Polerouter. Diam 5.50; ht 3.20; tube 2; filt 0.90.

 
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In your opinion on the polerouter table I am not a reference

Do you think that this model had a cyclops trapezoid here yes, what is the size of my my glass, I found the shop of the manufacturer Universal Geneva who is retiring and who sells everything in stock I am not a watchmaker and especially equipped to open it anyone would know these dimensions thank you

 
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The price is per unit depending on the model. The dimensions are in mm. without magnifying glass 70€, with round magnifying glass 100€. with trapezoid magnifying glass 140€. Ring = ba, thickness = ep,

N° 101 diam 28.5 ba rose ep 3.80; N° 104 diam 29 ba chrome 3.60; N° 105 diam 29.5 ba yellow ep 4.40 ; N° 106 diam 29.5 pink or yellow ep 3.80 round magnifying glass; N° 107 diam 29.5 yellow pink ep 4; N° 108 diam 29.5 chrome EP 3; N° 109 diam 29.5 ba yellow ep 3.50; N° 110 diam 29.5 chrome-plated EP 3; N° 111 diam 29.5 chrome plated ep 3.50; N° 112 diam 29.5 chrome plated ep 4.10; N° 113 diam 29.5 chrome EP 4.80; N° 114 diam 29.5 dew ep 4.20; N° 115 diam 30.5 chrome plated ep 4.5; N° 116 diam 30 yellow ep 3; N° 117 diam 30 yellow pink ep 3.30; N° 118 diam 30 rhodium-plated ep 3; N° 119 diam 30 chrome plated ep 3; N° 120 diam 30 chrome round burl ep 4.20; N° 121 diam 30 chrome magnifying glass trapezoid, ep 4.20; N° 122 diam 30 yellow round burl ep 4.20; N° 123 diam 30 pink round burl ep 4.20; N° 124 diam 30.5 rose ep 2.80; N° 125 diam 30.5 yellow ep 2.80; N° 126 diam 30.5 yellow ep 3; N° 127 diam 30.5 rose ep 3.50; N° 128 diam 30.5 yellow roseep 4; N° 129 diam 30.5 yellow ep 4.50; N° 130 diam 30.5 rose ep 3.70; N° 131 diam 30.5 yellow ep 4; N° 133 diam 30.5 yellow pink magnifying glass trapezoid, large EP 3.70; N° 134 diam 30.5 yellow magnifying glass trapezoid, ep 4; N° 135 diam 30.5 yellow or pink magnifying glass trapezoid ep 4.30; N° 136 diam 30.5 nickle ep 3.20; N° 137 diam 30.5 chrome plated ep 4.20; N° 141 diam 30.5 nicklé loupe trapeze ep 4; N° 142 diam 30.5 nicklé loupe trapezoid, ep 4.30; N° 143 diam 30.5 nicked trapezoidal burl 4.70; N° 144 diam 30.7 yellow ep 4.10; N° 145 diam 30.7 nickle ep 4; N° 146 diam 31 rose ep 3.7; N° 147 diam 31 yellow ep 3.7; N° 148 diam 31 yellow ep 3.8; 149 diam 31 rose ep 4.1; N° 150 diam 31 yellow ep 4.2; N° 152 diam 31 nicklé ep 4.1; N° 153 diam 31 without square burl ring ep 3.4; N° 154 diam 31 yellow round burl ep 3.8; N° 155 yellow diam 31 trapezoidal magnifying glass ep 4.2; N° 156 diam 31.4 nicklé genève Space Compax ep 6.7 price 160€. N° 157 nicklé diam 31.4 ep 5.8 price 120€; N° 158 yellow diam 31.5 ep 3.4; No. 159 diam 31.5 without bushing ep 3.80; N° 160 without ring, diam 31.5, trapezoid magnifying glass EP 3.2; N° 161 diam 31.5 nickled round burl ep 3.70; N° 163 diam 32 yellow ep 3.2; N° 164 diam 33 nickle ep 2.80; N° 165 diam 33 yellow ep 3; N° 166 diam 33 rose ep 3; N° 168 diam 33.5 nickle ep 3.5; N° 169 diam 34.5 rhodium-plated ep 3.5;
 
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thank you all I'm a little lost with all these references see you later