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  1. JM251 Oct 27, 2021

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  2. bubba48 Oct 27, 2021

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    Dial lumed with hands no lume?
     
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  3. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 27, 2021

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    I've just been reviewing past discussions here. I own a -2 with gold indices. This reference and its variations is where Sala is very incomplete. This watch, however, is problematic at that price. I'd not be a buyer.

    This watch should have lumed alpha hands. The Chrono hand is what I think is a 60's service hand. The crown is not a UG crown. The pushers are supposed to small, these look too large so I suspect they are also service parts or a later evolution of this case so may be ok. I'd never pay this much for a watch without a movement shot. The dial appears in the color plates for this reference, but as discussed ad nauseum, you cant always trust those.

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-geneve-tri-compax-22297-2.64541/
     
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  4. JM251 Oct 27, 2021

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    Great info here! Thank you, Larry!
     
  5. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 27, 2021

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    I’d be interested to hear what others think but the crown and the hands already knock the price down. This price is in the top of range for these, but watches need to be all correct.
     
  6. cvalue13 Oct 27, 2021

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    D950DF8D-44F8-4775-A023-503A9F3B9415.jpeg ACA21B99-ED5B-40C6-96BC-9B16359CEED1.jpeg Understanding these watches in this period were, let’s call it, quirky from the factory - I’d think the inconsistency in distances of the applied indices and lume plots a flag to be resolved.

    As soon as I say this out loud, someone will be along to say this is the most consistency they’ve seen :D
     
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  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 28, 2021

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    Actually … I think vintage black dials should always be viewed with suspicion. This one is no exception.
     
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  8. timoss Oct 28, 2021

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    Pictures are not good enough to really evaluate the dial. From what you can see here it looks like there is a good chance it is a redial. The black paint around the sub registers and some of the weight of the lettering looks off in places. Better pics needed for sure.
     
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  9. Burr Nov 16, 2021

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    Curious… has anyone ever come across a legit 22297 black dial? The few I have seen online always had at least one thing questionable about them, hope to see a legit one eventually, really cool reverse panda look
     
  10. jsducote Nov 16, 2021

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    I took another look at this, but not so close up. The symmetry of spacing left vs. right is pretty consistent. I mean, don't just compare 5 to 11. Compare 5 to 7. Then compare 4 to 8, 2 to 10, and 1 to 11. In that context, the spacing is rather consistent. No, it doesn't explain the difference between 5 and 11, or 7 and 1 for that matter, but I don't think it blows the whole dial out of contention as possible.
     
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  11. Oku Dec 1, 2021

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    I am a bit late to the party, but I am pretty sure that it is a redial.
    Look at the subdials:
    Thick font, no circles, white paint is uneven, some dings under the paint.
    I also think that month and date disc are reprinted.
    Besides, it is relumed.
     
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  12. rolokr Dec 3, 2021

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    Lume dots but no Swiss T at the bottom of the dial ? Hands should be
    lumed. PASS at 12k !