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@Diabolik
hey buddy, i just bought that book "Universal Watch Geneve" by Pietro Giuliano Sala and on page 34 found an image of a compax exotic-dial (version with white subdials) and the hour- and minutehandset of yours (and also the earlier compaxes). so there is minimum one second watch with theses hands.. thought i´ll let you know 😉 (if you not allready did)
best, andee
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This is a true stunner!
Wow!!!
Wow!!!
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·@Diabolik
hey buddy, i just bought that book "Universal Watch Geneve" by Pietro Giuliano Sala and on page 34 found an image of a compax exotic-dial (version with white subdials) and the hour- and minutehandset of yours (and also the earlier compaxes). so there is minimum one second watch with theses hands.. thought i´ll let you know 😉 (if you not allready did)
best, andee
Please post a pic. Would be great to see ..📖
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·@Diabolik
so this is the book and on page 34 you will find the image.. sadly no further info comes with it. subdial-hands are different to yours for sure.. maybe also switched in that piece, but the minute- and hour-hands are like in yours 😉
so this is the book and on page 34 you will find the image.. sadly no further info comes with it. subdial-hands are different to yours for sure.. maybe also switched in that piece, but the minute- and hour-hands are like in yours 😉
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Diabolik
·Thanks Andee, much appreciated ... Subdial hands are correct and are UG's I am 100% sure of that as whole handset if off a 22706/01.
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·@Diabolik wow.. very interesting piece.. so do you think hands have been original to that watch and exotic-dial had been switched in or maybe the whole watch has been built together from different parts? what is the refference btw? thanks for showing it! 😉
aahh and here is an image of th V72 movement of my exotic-dial compax with black hands.. do you see the engraved 125 in the bridge? maybe someone else can explain what that means.. i also have seen an 85 on the bridges of my space-compaxes..
I was not sure at the time but following some research, I can confirm that the 125 caliber is a two register movement and not a three register movement (caliber 130) that is found in the exotic.
There are a number of other issues visible following careful analysis that are incorrect on the 125 caliber movement that you show on your exotic. One of those is the gold embossed writing that does not match writing found on UG caliber 125 and 130 of the early 60's.
I do not think that the movement that is fitted is an original universal geneve movement (likely to be a valjoux 72 from another watch with a bridge that has come off of a valjoux 22 (two registers chronograph).
That may be a bit of a disappointment to the owner but it is what I have found after investigating discrepancies when looking at images.
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··Mrs Nataf's Other SonI was not sure at the time but following some research, I can confirm that the 125 caliber is a two register movement and not a three register movement (caliber 130) that is found in the exotic. There are a number of other issues that I can spot following careful analysis that are incorrect on the 125 calibrate movement that you show. One of those is the gold embossed writing that does not match caliber 125 and 130 of the early 60's.
I think that movement is not an original universal geneve movement (likely to be a v72 from another maker) and has a bridge that has come off of a valjoux 71 (two registers).
That may be a bit of a disappointment to the owner but it is what I have found after discrepancies when carefully looking at images.
Valjoux 71 is a three register, predecessor to the 71. The two register versions of the 71 and 72 are the 22 and 23.
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·Here is an image of a ug big eye (two registers) with caliber 125 and 130 caliber as used on early 227xx references. The last image is the exotic compax 125 movement shown by Andee. Note bridge and writing on chrono/main plate and balance wheel plate of UG 130 and compare with three register V72 with 125 on bridge ...
Universal Geneve 125 (Valjoux 22)
Universal Geneve 130 (Valjoux 72)
V72 with UG bridge on Exotic
Universal Geneve 125 (Valjoux 22)
Universal Geneve 130 (Valjoux 72)
V72 with UG bridge on Exotic
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Diabolik
·Valjoux 71 is a three register, predecessor to the 71. The two register versions of the 71 and 72 are the 22 and 23.
Yes, not v71 but a v22 bridge. The bridge on those v22 and v72 movements is interchangeable/identical ...
So, caliber 125 would be a v22 and 130 is the v72 movement . The exotic, fits a caliber 130 or 85 , so the bridge on that movement is wrong. The movement also looks wrong!
The V72 should have 130 stamped on bridge.
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·interesting.. want to do my own research first. i also asked for some movement-images of my second exotic which is still at the watchmaker.
thx and best, a
thx and best, a
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·so i finally received the movement-images from my watchmaker of my second exotic compax, and it looks like it proofs what you mentioned @Diabolik ..this movement´s bridge, which belongs to my exotic with the red sweeping second hand, is signed 85, and it seems to be a normal V72.. anyways love both pieces i could achieve but have to go on a hunt for a correct movement for the other one now.
thanks and very best, andee
thanks and very best, andee
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·UNBELIEVABLE beautiful, my good friend !!!!!! Love it !!!!!!!!
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billyblue
·Wow, not a fan of vintage watches in general, but these are amazing. Congratulations to you all!
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Gatsby
·Gentlemen,
took me a long long time to get this beauty - I wanted it so badly, but no chance that the owner give away!
I made a really good offer, then again, then again ... and after not hearing from him a few weeks long, i got a mail
that he would be ready !!! So I am, always! 😀
He got it from first owner, the watch is totally in original condition!
- never polished
- never changed any part
- serial and reference number on the back
- even first domed Plexy glas with UG sign in the centre !!!
- dial is perfect in any way
- all lume dots perfect
- hands perfect
It even came with the original GF bracelet in very good condition - don't kill me, I sold it as I would never wear the Exotic Compax with it, for me the GF bracelet looks supernice on a Nina or even Tri Compax, but Exotic is cooler on leather and Nato - what a watch !!!!
Thanks for looking!
Werner
took me a long long time to get this beauty - I wanted it so badly, but no chance that the owner give away!
I made a really good offer, then again, then again ... and after not hearing from him a few weeks long, i got a mail
that he would be ready !!! So I am, always! 😀
He got it from first owner, the watch is totally in original condition!
- never polished
- never changed any part
- serial and reference number on the back
- even first domed Plexy glas with UG sign in the centre !!!
- dial is perfect in any way
- all lume dots perfect
- hands perfect
It even came with the original GF bracelet in very good condition - don't kill me, I sold it as I would never wear the Exotic Compax with it, for me the GF bracelet looks supernice on a Nina or even Tri Compax, but Exotic is cooler on leather and Nato - what a watch !!!!
Thanks for looking!
Werner
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Diabolik
·Gentlemen,
took me a long long time to get this beauty - I wanted it so badly, but no chance that the owner give away!
I made a really good offer, then again, then again ... and after not hearing from him a few weeks long, i got a mail
that he would be ready !!! So I am, always! 😀
He got it from first owner, the watch is totally in original condition!
- never polished
- never changed any part
- serial and reference number on the back
- even first domed Plexy glas with UG sign in the centre !!!
- dial is perfect in any way
- all lume dots perfect
- hands perfect
It even came with the original GF bracelet in very good condition - don't kill me, I sold it as I would never wear the Exotic Compax with it, for me the GF bracelet looks supernice on a Nina or even Tri Compax, but Exotic is cooler on leather and Nato - what a watch !!!!
Thanks for looking!
Werner
Green with envy ...
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·dear Werner @Gatsby .. from all pieces we could achieve over the years i have the feeling that these exotic compax´s are maybe the most special ones. yours is in absolute gorgeous condition! what a stunner! this is finally the watch that fits more than any other to my good old friend.
..just summer missing now!! soon..very soon 😉
yours, andee
..just summer missing now!! soon..very soon 😉
yours, andee
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Gatsby
·THANKS so much, Gentlemen !!!!!!!
About the size: iI am normally a Daytona guy and my opinion about Chronographs from the 60s and 70s with 72 movement is, that they have the perfect size! If they were bigger, they would not have the same appeal - wear them with all proudness these watches deserve, and it can't be wrong !!
About the size: iI am normally a Daytona guy and my opinion about Chronographs from the 60s and 70s with 72 movement is, that they have the perfect size! If they were bigger, they would not have the same appeal - wear them with all proudness these watches deserve, and it can't be wrong !!
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