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Seamaster 600 & 30 with Black ‘Military’ Style Dial - Reference Thread

  1. Davidt Dec 30, 2021

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    I recently acquired one of these and it led to me spending several hours scouring Google to piece together all the info and known examples I could find with this dial type.

    The info below is what I’ve managed to piece together thus far...

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    Models
    I’ve identified 15 examples with this dial type so far. This included;
    9 Seamaster 600’s (ref 135.011),
    5 Seamaster 30’s (135.007),
    1 Geneve (135.011 same ref as the Seamaster 600).

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    Dials
    As can be seen from the picture below, the dials have the following attributes;
    Matte black body,
    Painted white Omega logo,
    White Arabic hour numerals,
    Rail track minute track,
    T Swiss Made T at 6 o’clock,
    Applied tritium lume at each hour marker, hash marks at 3, 6 and 9, a hash with two dots at 12 and single dots at the remaining markers.
    The dials are constant whether it’s a 600, 30 or Geneve. The only difference being the white text denoting the model at 6 o’clock.

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    Movements
    All movements appear to be manual and without date. I haven’t found a single example of this dial with the date feature.
    Seamaster 30 - cal 286. Serial range appears to be 20,77xxxx (2 examples) and 21,35xxxx (3 examples).
    Seamaster 600 and Geneve - cal 601. Serial range appears to be 22,07xxxx (5 examples) and 26,1xxxxx (2 examples). I was unable to identify the serial number of 2 examples.

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    Hands
    There are two distinct hand types associated with these dials. Stick and baton (with Speedmaster style seconds hand); both of which are lumed. There doesn’t appear to be any association with serial numbers to identify a change over point between the two as both types are seen on across serial ranges.
    I can say that the baton type seems to appear later (and then run concurrently with the stick type) as I observed no baton hands on the earlier Seamaster 30’s.

    Stick hands. Credit: timerediscovered.com
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    Baton Hands. Credit: @Nla91
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    Caseback
    Interestingly a significant number of these appear to have names and numbers engraved on the caseback. Out of the 15 examples I’ve found, 9 had a name and number engraved. Of the 6 that did not, 2 had caseback a that appeared to have been polished to remove an engraving.

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    Credit: vintagewatchspecialist.com
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    Credit: corevintagewatches.com
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    If you’ve made it this far, thanks for reading. I’m intrigued by these dials as 1) they’re quite uncommon, 2) they’re great looking, and 3) I wonder if they were some kind of special order due to the apparent tight serial ranges and the fact that so many appear to have engraved casebacks with some kind of ID number. I’ll shortly apply for an extract for mine to see if the delivery location and notes shed any light.

    In the meantime I’d love to hear others opinions on these watches. Do you agree with my findings or have any corrections or additions?
    I’d also be really keen to identify other examples out there that are hiding in peoples collections. I believe @Nla91 has one? If you’ve got one in your collection please post some pics below along with any info you have in the watch and it’s history. Even better, I’d like to document serial numbers and caseback engravings (even partial if you’d prefer not to reveal the entire number) so feel free to pm me if you’re comfortable with that.
    I would say that I’d like to try and keep this thread specific to this exact dial type. There is a similar thread for the technical dial Seamaster 600’s/Geneves.

    I’ve included above some photos from dealers websites and added credit where appropriate. If anyone has any objections to me using their photos, let me know.

    Finally, beware when considering purchasing watches with these dials. The black colour and style are ripe for redialers, so make sure you’re looking at an original dial.
     
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  2. Hetcins1 Dec 30, 2021

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    Stunning watch like the strap also. :)
     
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  3. M'Bob Dec 30, 2021

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    Really nicely done research, many thanks.
     
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  4. Nla91 Dec 31, 2021

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    Yes cool research David!
    I own this 135.011 with serial 22.07.xxxx
    No caseback engraving and looks unpolished.

    I have no info about the history to the watch but it looks like a pretty honest example with little use.

    I’m planning to order an extract in the near future.
     
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  5. perenowell Dec 31, 2021

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    Very nice watches! And thanks for the infos!
     
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  6. Davidt Jan 1, 2022

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    Excellent, many thanks @Nla91.

    Post now updated to reflect your watches info. This adds further evidence that there was a batch of this dial issued with 22,07xxxx serials as we now have 5 in that range from a sample size of 9.
     
  7. pmontoyap Jan 1, 2022

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    I have always wanted one of these, reminds me a lot of the RAF 53 dial. Thanks for putting together this highly enjoyable read. HNY
     
  8. padders Oooo subtitles! Jan 1, 2022

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    This thread serves a very useful purpose since there are many mil style redials using the 6XX movements so to accurately nail down what the real ones look like is a public service. It is a good looking piece, I would give one of those box room.

    :thumbsup:
     
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  9. seekingseaquest Jan 1, 2022

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    I was doing research on these a while back and have a bunch of links saved. @Davidt I’ll send them to you and you can post what you please.
     
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  10. dmtowl Mar 14, 2022

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  11. JwRosenthal Mar 15, 2022

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    Your fingers were a fraction of a second faster than mine- it went to ended as I was trying to buy it. This would fall more under the technical dialed than the military style. Check out the 600 thread for more like this, and I beleive there was another thread on technical dials specifically.
     
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  12. dmtowl Mar 15, 2022

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    Wow thats crazy because I was close to hesitating on buying it. Guess you trained me too well by the Recommended Good Value Thread. If I ever decide to sell (probably unlikely), dibs are yours my friend.
     
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